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Old 04-09-2017, 11:13 AM
Status: "Smartened up and walked away!" (set 24 days ago)
 
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That metro person may be responsible for who all knows what else during that time. Perhaps it would not be a good idea for her to let everything else fall by the wayside so that she can stay with a woman whose situation might be embarrassing but not dangerous. Unless you know differently of course.
So easy to come up with the woulda, coulda, shoulda without knowing all the facts.
Repped ya and didn't mean to - true the person might have had other responsibilities but someone should have been called to stay with the person if only to safeguard her tote. We have metros here and I know a few of the workers - not a hard job - much like your county and Federal office workers - 4 stand around talking while 1 works - but the responsibility of the metro workers is to assist the people - which not one of them was doing.
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Old 04-09-2017, 11:33 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Repped ya and didn't mean to - true the person might have had other responsibilities but someone should have been called to stay with the person if only to safeguard her tote. We have metros here and I know a few of the workers - not a hard job - much like your county and Federal office workers - 4 stand around talking while 1 works - but the responsibility of the metro workers is to assist the people - which not one of them was doing.
So whose to say someone wasn't on the way? Or that the metro worker was hanging around in the area until someone else arrived? Perhaps the woman didn't want people around her (lord knows I wouldn't if it were me). She didn't seem to be upset or in distress to the point of needing to be comforted. It appears as though she was resigned to simply waiting patiently to be freed from an awkward predicament. The video clip and article really didn't provide much detail or a timeline so I think it's unfair to bash an employee when you don't actually have the details as to what was happening. But I know that everyone always seems to think there needs to be someone who did something wrong and needs to take the blame.
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Old 04-09-2017, 01:04 PM
 
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A woman got her noggin stuck between the doors of a 4 train in The Bronx — and fellow straphangers strolled right by without stopping to help her, a video shows.

https://nypost.com/2017/04/06/no-one...-subway-doors/
Heh! When I saw this thread title pop up in the active threads block I immediately thought of New York City and it turns out I was right.
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Old 04-09-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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You have to consider the effects on society as a whole.
It's obvious that if you help her get free, then she won't learn her lesson, and she'll keep getting stuck and holding up the trains. And then other people will begin using their heads to hold the doors.


Thanks, random Internet PSA video taker for making subway travel more efficient.
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Old 04-09-2017, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Since help was on the way and bystanders can't easily pry the doors open, the least people could have done was stand around to increase the embarrassment of the poor woman's already uncomfortable situation.

Seriously, if it were me, I would want people to ignore me until the mechanic arrived to open the door. What's a bystander gonna do, pet my head? Give me sips of water?

The moral righteousness on this thread combined with the New York shaming is giving me a bigger headache than this poor lady probably had.
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Old 04-09-2017, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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A woman got her noggin stuck between the doors of a 4 train in The Bronx — and fellow straphangers strolled right by without stopping to help her, a video shows.

https://nypost.com/2017/04/06/no-one...-subway-doors/
I wonder if that is why trains have those automated announcements: "Please stand clear, the doors are closing."
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Old 04-09-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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Why is this a news story? All you have to do is wait for the train operator to open the doors again, and this is exactly what happened. If anybody tried to "help" her, they would've been stopped by the MTA employee for trying to break the doors.

The train is not going anywhere.
That's probably why they didn't do anything.

In NJ, if some kid holds the door for their friends just fooling around etc by standing in the door (think PATH train,) they can hold the train up for quite some time.. the doors bounce back open. And no, there is not security etc. Sure, the conductor can come on the overhead, but that's all they can do. And hit the door button. They can't move the train until the doors are closed...

The NYC trains, I remember the 5 and 6, I may have got a 2 and 4 once.. They do close the doors a little more assertively, but I believe they look for this kind of thing. Not sure how they do subway police there.
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Old 04-09-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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HELP that nice lady, WTF is wrong with people.

I am pretty much a prickish person....but there is no way I would have walked past her without trying to help!
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Old 04-09-2017, 11:23 PM
 
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I am pretty much a prickish person....but there is no way I would have walked past her without trying to help!
And what would you have done?
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Old 04-09-2017, 11:36 PM
 
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Bystander effect folks.
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