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Old 11-05-2017, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Incredible that no one stood up to help but decided to record the incident instead. When are we going to stop protecting minors? Publish their names! The bully should be charged with attempted murder and thrown in jail.

Ridgewood Teen's Skull Fractured Defending Girl In Cyber-Bullying Incident | Ridgewood Daily Voice
I'm not surprised at all. See the issue is many people fear speaking up. It isn't their problem if it isn't their friend. As much as I don't want it to be, it isn't.

Also the protection of minors by law we cannot release names. As for charges, I'm all for charging teens as adults if the crime is harsh enough. The factors in this one leads me to be for this in this case.
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Old 11-05-2017, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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If the girl is under 17, that is another law broken (federal law at that). It is unlawful to possess nude photos of underage kids , regardless how old you are. I've seen 16 year old girls use nude photos of their friends as blackmail, go to prison and be charged with a felony and be registered as a sex pedophilia offender because they possessed pictures of naked underage people on their phones or computers. Parents who have pictures of their babies naked are breaking federal law, and that is often an innocent case, so imagine the punishment that can happen with this teen.
I have NEVER heard of parents being arrested for child porn for having a naked baby picture at their home at all.
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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I have NEVER heard of parents being arrested for child porn for having a naked baby picture at their home at all.
well, if they wanted to go after a parent, I could easily see investigators trying to 'interpret' an innocent naked baby picture as actually being something criminal.

Im not sure why bullying is such a big problem right now, bullies have always been around, I remember a handful of them from middle school, but no one ever committed suicide over it or had any major injuries. It was just something we had to deal with, it was like an unwritten rule among kids.
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Also the protection of minors by law we cannot release names. As for charges, I'm all for charging teens as adults if the crime is harsh enough. The factors in this one leads me to be for this in this case.
Same here, depending on the age of the minor and the severity of the injury.
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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well, if they wanted to go after a parent, I could easily see investigators trying to 'interpret' an innocent naked baby picture as actually being something criminal.

Im not sure why bullying is such a big problem right now, bullies have always been around, I remember a handful of them from middle school, but no one ever committed suicide over it or had any major injuries. It was just something we had to deal with, it was like an unwritten rule among kids.
Probably because bullies are getting worse nowadays, to point of (as we see here) almost killing people and leaving them, the victims, WITH major injuries. Kids are also starting to bully earlier and earlier, when they're at their most vulnerable and don't know how the hell to deal with it, and nobody wants to do a damn thing about it because of mindsets similar to yours, where it's just something you dealt with. So it's just gonna get worse and worse and a kid is going to get killed and I doubt even that would change much.

That and if you've never been bullied everyday in a place that's supposed to make you feel safe, where you're supposed to learn, to the point of almost losing your life (and not by suicide) I highly doubt you'd be as neutral about it as you are now.

There's few things that rile me up in this world and bullies are one, especially giving them a 'well it's a way of life and school' excuses, MADE BY ADULTS. There's no reason for bullying and I don't give a **** who you are, leave people alone.
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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Social media has made bullying worse. Way worse.

When most of us were kids, when we went home, we went home. Other than phone calls from friends, we were done with school and the people.

It never, ever ends now with social media. Ever.

And the answer is not always "Just don't let your kids go on it" If someone has a phone with a camera and their own accounts, they can send pictures of your kid around without your kid's consent.

My kid is ten years old and the kids in the class are on Snapchat and IG and heaven knows what else. TEN YEARS OLD

I believe that one of the worst feelings for humans is the feeling of being trapped. Now kids are trapped 24/7.

We expect things from kids that we don't expect of ourselves. Oh, just ignore, oh learn how to be tougher. Yeah right. But when it happens to adults at work, run right to HR and file a complaint.

Honestly, the only TRUE answer to get away from this nonsense is to homeschool. (and no I don't homeschool)
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Social media has made bullying worse. Way worse.

When most of us were kids, when we went home, we went home. Other than phone calls from friends, we were done with school and the people.

It never, ever ends now with social media. Ever.
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In some ways, yes. But a long time ago, kids would make prank phone calls and roll toilet paper in the front lawns of kids homes they didn't like. So harassment could carry on after the school day was over.


Social media, though, makes it far easier and more consistent to harass someone. Getting off the computer won't solve the problem if someone is sharing around jokes jokes & gossip about the person online all day long. Whether the victim goes online or not, won't solve that problem. I find it incredible that victims are expected to delete their own social media profiles and not go online or communicate with other kids online. When everyone else (non-victim) can do the same.


If someone posted photos of my teen daughter in the dressing room online as a "joke" I'd have them prosecuted under child porn statutes. I'd also encourage parents to get legal help to determine if what's being done to their children is covered under the definition of harassment, and sue the parents if they need to do so. Sometimes, simply paying a lawyer to write a cease-and-desist letter can scare someone enough to get their teen to stop the harassment. I'm not claiming it would work in every situation, but it's often worth trying.
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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Parents need to press charges.



Reform in the juvenile penal system.


Reform in police investigations. The crime is the crime. This protecting the minor who committed it is ludricrous
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:37 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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What is it with these teens today that have so much anger? It seems to be all or nothing with them and they lack coping skills. There are too many that are cyber bullied and commit suicide.
Um, you do know the young of today are just an experiment right? Remember it wasn't that long ago that kids were playing outside and riding bikes. Now they are exposed to everything adult right away, so their mostly carefree childhood is toast. What is wrong isn't the kids, it is the hyped up for profit media mess that they are exposed to. They are 25 years old at 12 due to exposure. So glad we have our nice experiment going, but the profits are tumbling in for some. You would be angry to if you were exposed to all the crap kids are exposed to.

I was so lucky to grow up in the 70's and 80's. Sure were great times. Bullying was still around of course, but things are so different now with so much anger.
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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well, if they wanted to go after a parent, I could easily see investigators trying to 'interpret' an innocent naked baby picture as actually being something criminal.
They could but it wouldn't stick at all. How do you sexualized a naked baby picture that is in a house. It isn't like one of those crypt found on an episode of Law & Order Special Victims Unit or one of those pictures within a picture on someone's computer.

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Im not sure why bullying is such a big problem right now, bullies have always been around, I remember a handful of them from middle school, but no one ever committed suicide over it or had any major injuries. It was just something we had to deal with, it was like an unwritten rule among kids.
Because bullying goes home today thanks to the internet and social media. I grew up in a time when AIM, MSN and chat rooms could lead to bullying but was just finishing ny the time MySpace got big. I was bullied too but I don't know what I would have done considering social media magnifying it.
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