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Old 03-26-2018, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I am having a bad arthritis day today, hence why I started this topic. I firmly believe that people should embark on weight loss ONLY IF AND WHEN THEY ARE READY. It is not easy and requires dedication. I can go on and on as to why weight loss isn't a walk in the park, but all of us who have been through it (or are going through it) know what I say all too well.

That being said, I want me to be a cautionary tale, particularly to those who are younger (under 40) and are overweight/obese.

I spent much of my thirties being obese. My BMI was 32/33. Pregnancy weight gain, crappy eating habits, non-existent physical activity not only took a toll on my body appearance wise, it took a toll on my body healthwise. All of that talk you hear about obesity-related health issues? It's not just puffs of smoke up your butt. It's real. I have two chronic conditions that are directly tied to obesity and these health problems aren't going away. I can MANAGE them, but I'm stuck with them. For life. And I was only 40 when I was diagnosed. I have moderate to severe OA in my knees, courtesy of too much weight. I also have HBP. I'm pre-disposed, but obesity caused me to get it earlier in life than other family members. (For reference, my mother is in her 70s when she was recently diagnosed, and my father was in his 60s).

Due to my chronic conditions, I have to regularly see doctors and take medications and get monitored. This translates into more costs to me (specialist co-pays, etc.) and probably to my employer. I have to be mindful of these conditions in terms of drug interactions. I have to be mindful of how much alcohol I can consume.

I also have a neurological disorder that the doctors can't figure out. It presents like MS yet it apparently isn't. While I can't definitely say that obesity had something to do with it, I do notice that the symptoms mostly disappeared the moment all of the weight came off. I still have clinical fatigue/weakness in my arms but again, I'm able to manage this due to regularly strength workouts.

As many of you know, I've lost 70 lbs and am no longer obese. Many people who haven't seen me years before don't believe that I could ever have a weight problem. That's flattering, but not the case - I was fat for almost ten years. I decided to lose weight because of the health issues. It was the wakeup call/rallying cry I obviously needed. Who knows what else I would have picked up along the way? Type 2 diabetes? I still carry the health baggage around and will continue to carry it. Again, all I can do is manage. These conditions will not go away. some days I feel like anyone else and other days, like today, I feel not so great.

Exercise has proved to be invaluable for managing OA. If I don't exercise, I become very stiff in the knees and achy all over. it's not even optional at this point, if I don't move I will be in major pain. I don't take any meds for this, but that's ONLY because I exercise. I do take two types of medication for the HBP.

I don't want this to come off as a finger wag, but you don't stay young forever. If you don't have any health issues at the moment, please take a moment to consider making some lifestyle changes, even if it doesn't result in any weight loss. Add some physical activity into your life it all possible. People are being diagnosed with health problems earlier and earlier and this directly due to overweight and sedentary lifestyle. Don't wait until you have problems to act, if you can. Whatever is your rallying cry to make a change, DO IT.
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Old 03-27-2018, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Two words: Pioppi Protocol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeowL4Ckwx0

Do not fall for the Americanized phoney baloney version of the Mediterranean Diet. The real Mediterranean Diet is almost devoid of "healthy whole grains"
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Old 03-27-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Two words: Pioppi Protocol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeowL4Ckwx0

Do not fall for the Americanized phoney baloney version of the Mediterranean Diet. The real Mediterranean Diet is almost devoid of "healthy whole grains"

Millet, wheatberries, bulgur, farro? Those are very healthy for you, and I'm not sure what this has to do with Rialese post?

Anyway, I completely agree with OP.

My first husband died at 42 from being overweight and no exercise. You have to take care of your body.
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Old 03-28-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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I spent much of my thirties being obese. My BMI was 32/33.
Nope.. it is over blown. This is why people are so sick today. Doctors don't really want to find the truth they just want you thin. Never mind that they make it seriously impossible to be thin. For instance almost all of the weight loss drugs on the market have horrible side effects and hardly work. There are a few drugs that do work but doctors will only prescribe them for like 3 months. Opioid drugs are thrown out like candy but diet drugs that have been around for 50 years and actually work you can only get for a few months. And also, if doctors were SERiOUS about you losing weight for your health they would write letters to your employer indicating that you needed time to exercise. No they just sit there on high and lecture you when they know darn well your probably won't be able to lose without help. They don't do anything to show their seriousness about it.

I have had a BMI of 32 /33 for most of my life. I go up and down stairs constantly and I don't have any problems with my knees. Why? When I was younger I started having issues and I looked into it and found reasons for my arthritis and bursitis and worked to take the proper supplements to avoid issues. Taking the proper supplements have helped me avoid any issues even though I have some preexisting issues which, by rights, should have me almost crippled.

Do I agree that I need to get that BMI down? Yes. Do I think that it is possible that eating itself could be damaging to the body? Yes. But if you have a high BMI it isn't the end of the world if you pay attention and make sure you take supplements that counteract the problems you might have.

I will say I have had a number of people die of Uterine cancer around me. I absolutely do think that is a real obesity risk. BUT>>>>>> both people were secret heavy drinkers. That is the thing about being fat.. people can see it.. so at first I was really worried about uterine cancer.. but when I discovered they all had alcohol issues, I knew it was likely that.
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:16 AM
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Nope.. it is over blown. This is why people are so sick today. Doctors don't really want to find the truth they just want you thin. Never mind that they make it seriously impossible to be thin. For instance almost all of the weight loss drugs on the market have horrible side effects and hardly work. There are a few drugs that do work but doctors will only prescribe them for like 3 months. Opioid drugs are thrown out like candy but diet drugs that have been around for 50 years and actually work you can only get for a few months. And also, if doctors were SERiOUS about you losing weight for your health they would write letters to your employer indicating that you needed time to exercise. No they just sit there on high and lecture you when they know darn well your probably won't be able to lose without help. They don't do anything to show their seriousness about it.

I have had a BMI of 32 /33 for most of my life. I go up and down stairs constantly and I don't have any problems with my knees. Why? When I was younger I started having issues and I looked into it and found reasons for my arthritis and bursitis and worked to take the proper supplements to avoid issues. Taking the proper supplements have helped me avoid any issues even though I have some preexisting issues which, by rights, should have me almost crippled.

Do I agree that I need to get that BMI down? Yes. Do I think that it is possible that eating itself could be damaging to the body? Yes. But if you have a high BMI it isn't the end of the world if you pay attention and make sure you take supplements that counteract the problems you might have.

I will say I have had a number of people die of Uterine cancer around me. I absolutely do think that is a real obesity risk. BUT>>>>>> both people were secret heavy drinkers. That is the thing about being fat.. people can see it.. so at first I was really worried about uterine cancer.. but when I discovered they all had alcohol issues, I knew it was likely that.
"Doctors" tell you to exercise regularly, eat healthily, and not get obese in the first place.


I guess you ignored that, but you have no problem blaming your own long term choices on them.
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:41 PM
 
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Odd how this thread jumped the rails and went sideways in a heartbeat.

Dropping excess weight and moving are just solid principles for a healthier life. You can debate how to drop the weight or what sort of movement is preferred all day long, but you can't argue that it's solid logic.

I dropped weight and stopped snoring, thus better quality sleep and less strain on my heart. I'm carrying 25% less weight and so less stress on my feet, knees, and back. And my pre-hypertension disappeared overnight, funny how that happened.

Rialese offered a thoughtful piece of advice based on hard-earned experience, we should all take note.
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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I am having a bad arthritis day today, hence why I started this topic. I firmly believe that people should embark on weight loss ONLY IF AND WHEN THEY ARE READY. It is not easy and requires dedication. I can go on and on as to why weight loss isn't a walk in the park, but all of us who have been through it (or are going through it) know what I say all too well.

That being said, I want me to be a cautionary tale, particularly to those who are younger (under 40) and are overweight/obese.

I spent much of my thirties being obese. My BMI was 32/33. Pregnancy weight gain, crappy eating habits, non-existent physical activity not only took a toll on my body appearance wise, it took a toll on my body healthwise. All of that talk you hear about obesity-related health issues? It's not just puffs of smoke up your butt. It's real. I have two chronic conditions that are directly tied to obesity and these health problems aren't going away. I can MANAGE them, but I'm stuck with them. For life. And I was only 40 when I was diagnosed. I have moderate to severe OA in my knees, courtesy of too much weight. I also have HBP. I'm pre-disposed, but obesity caused me to get it earlier in life than other family members. (For reference, my mother is in her 70s when she was recently diagnosed, and my father was in his 60s).

Due to my chronic conditions, I have to regularly see doctors and take medications and get monitored. This translates into more costs to me (specialist co-pays, etc.) and probably to my employer. I have to be mindful of these conditions in terms of drug interactions. I have to be mindful of how much alcohol I can consume.

I also have a neurological disorder that the doctors can't figure out. It presents like MS yet it apparently isn't. While I can't definitely say that obesity had something to do with it, I do notice that the symptoms mostly disappeared the moment all of the weight came off. I still have clinical fatigue/weakness in my arms but again, I'm able to manage this due to regularly strength workouts.

As many of you know, I've lost 70 lbs and am no longer obese. Many people who haven't seen me years before don't believe that I could ever have a weight problem. That's flattering, but not the case - I was fat for almost ten years. I decided to lose weight because of the health issues. It was the wakeup call/rallying cry I obviously needed. Who knows what else I would have picked up along the way? Type 2 diabetes? I still carry the health baggage around and will continue to carry it. Again, all I can do is manage. These conditions will not go away. some days I feel like anyone else and other days, like today, I feel not so great.

Exercise has proved to be invaluable for managing OA. If I don't exercise, I become very stiff in the knees and achy all over. it's not even optional at this point, if I don't move I will be in major pain. I don't take any meds for this, but that's ONLY because I exercise. I do take two types of medication for the HBP.

I don't want this to come off as a finger wag, but you don't stay young forever. If you don't have any health issues at the moment, please take a moment to consider making some lifestyle changes, even if it doesn't result in any weight loss. Add some physical activity into your life it all possible. People are being diagnosed with health problems earlier and earlier and this directly due to overweight and sedentary lifestyle. Don't wait until you have problems to act, if you can. Whatever is your rallying cry to make a change, DO IT.
Yeah, I'm 41 with a BMI of 30. I need to get that down - have to lose about 35 pounds. It's always present in my mind. My job is sedentary with long hours, but I have really active dogs that I could be doing more with.

Thank you for sharing your experience.
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Old 03-28-2018, 04:33 PM
 
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"Doctors" tell you to exercise regularly, eat healthily, and not get obese in the first place. I guess you ignored that, but you have no problem blaming your own long term choices on them.
I love how the only thing left in this world that is a "choice" is when your fat. Everything else isn't.
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Old 03-28-2018, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Don't let any doctor tell you you can't reverse disease, but can only manage it. That only speaks of their failure and/or ignorance.
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Old 03-28-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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Don't let any doctor tell you you can't reverse disease, but can only manage it. That only speaks of their failure and/or ignorance.
Awesome!! Have you cured autoimmune diseases? Ideopathic HBP, high cholersterol and diabetes? And the millions of other medical problems that don't have a cure?
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