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Old 11-01-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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The only thing that is unsustainable is the government's massive spending and entitlement programs

Wealthy people making truckloads of money are completely sustainable they earned their money in a free market

If the government and immigrants keep voting to steal money from the well to do they will simply leave or cease investing. This isn't free and therefore it is not sustainable.

Government control or wealth distribution scheme's will never work in the long run

Not all earn their money in a free market; slumlords are a good example because the housing market is not a free market.
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Old 11-01-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Not all earn their money in a free market; slumlords are a good example because the housing market is not a free market.
You can move any time you want.
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:14 AM
 
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You can move any time you want.
False
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And if, according to that article, it takes $50K a year to "support a middle class lifestyle for a family of four," two wage-earners in that family would easily exceed that.
But we have a growing number of single parent households.

31% of families are run by single parents.

The Mysterious and Alarming Rise of Single Parenthood in America - The Atlantic
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Originally Posted by hartford_renter View Post
The only thing that is unsustainable is the government's massive spending and entitlement programs

Wealthy people making truckloads of money are completely sustainable they earned their money in a free market

If the government and immigrants keep voting to steal money from the well to do they will simply leave or cease investing. This isn't free and therefore it is not sustainable.

Government control or wealth distribution scheme's will never work in the long run
Yup.

Government spending - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The overwhelming bulk of the federal budget goes to welfare (SSA, HHS), "defense," and now recently servicing debt has emerged at a close fourth. Everything else is really peanuts in comparison.

Getting total government spending back down to less than 1/4th of GDP would help tremendously. We're not quite Europe bad where it's generally around 50% and often more but it's ridiculous.
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Old 11-01-2014, 03:17 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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In some towns in the US, that would be more than enough to live pretty well on. Your point is?
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:22 PM
 
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The Just World Fallacy people are hilarious the only solution they can come up with is work harder and if you do not make it is all your fault. They continue to fail to acknowledge things like intelligence, having a stable home, luck factor in success but they do not want to hear that because they want to believe they got where they are all by themselves and if they made it darn gosh anyone can. So was it slaves fault that they were in slavery they should have worked harder and they would not longer be slaves or was it the Jews fault they went to concentration camps? We continue to see there failed logic they keep presenting no matter what facts are presented to them. They fail to see anything but their narrow minded views that hard work equals success.
Well stated!
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:29 PM
 
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Government spending - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The overwhelming bulk of the federal budget goes to welfare (SSA, HHS), "defense," and now recently servicing debt ... Getting total government spending back down to less than 1/4th of GDP would help tremendously. We're not quite Europe bad where it's generally around 50% and often more but it's ridiculous.
United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Social Security in general is not welfare. Workers paid into it, and were matched by employers. I agree that many collecting SS Disability are leeching off of it, but that's the fault of a system that rewards wackos, drunks, junkies & shirkers, as if they were disabled at work. Cut back the 35% on SSD, leave the old folks alone. Medicare/Medicaid are bloated by the medical & pharmaceutical professions, and crooked doctors & hospitals milking the system. I don't know how it could be cut, but it needs to be.
Our military is the third big spend. More than the next dozen nations combined. Time to stop being the world's policeman. The Pentagon loves billion-dollar jets & bombers, more than million-dollar drones. Now that we are energy efficient, it's time to rein the military in. Let the Arabs, etc., kill each other, in our absence.
The US federal government spends far less per person than western European countries. 41.6%of GDP.
Government spending - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"In 2010, the Federal government of the USA spent an average of $11,041 per citizen (per capita). This compares to the 2010 World average spending of $2,376 per citizen and an average of $16,110 per citizen for the World's 20 largest economies (in terms of GDP). Of the 20 largest economies, only six spent less per citizen: South Korea ($4,557), Brazil ($2,813), Russia ($2,458), China ($1,010), and India ($226). Of the 13 that spent more, Norway and Sweden top the list with per citizen spending of $40,908 and $26,760 respectively."
Denmark spends 57.6%, France 56.1%. Even Germany spends 45.4%, and it is starving its infrastructure.
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:31 PM
 
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You can move any time you want.

With the number of options constrained by government. Specifically, I am precluded by government from exiting the rental market. Landlords have a captive market so demand will always persist.
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:35 PM
 
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But we have a growing number of single parent households.

31% of families are run by single parents.

The Mysterious and Alarming Rise of Single Parenthood in America - The Atlantic

The Atlantic? Funny how liberals can't connect the dots to see how their policies promote single parenthood.
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