Even today companies still importing H1B's for work (contractor, visa, tax)
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"While the city vows to save and create jobs for recession-ravaged New Yorkers, one of its biggest contractors is importing techies from India, instead of hiring local computer nerds.
IBM won a $1.9 million contract with the Department of Finance to analyze its old main databases so they can be improved, but the company has transported "consultants" from Mumbai and other parts of India to do most of the work."
The problem isn't foreign workers, its cheap labor... you need better incentives for hiring domestic workers or even disincentives for those who hire foreign workers...
"P" used to stand for Patriotism. All it stands for now is Profits. Meanwhile our fellow Americans are damned to unemployment.
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Yeah - don't the corps get tax breaks for hiring the H1Bs? I am sure it is somewhere on the internet. This program needs to be abolished it is easily abused and deeply flawed and has outlived its usefulness.
The problem isn't foreign workers, its cheap labor... you need better incentives for hiring domestic workers or even disincentives for those who hire foreign workers...
The H1B program requires companies to pay the same wages as they would to an American employee.
People seem to have a hard time dealing with the idea that general unemployment could be high, while there is a short supply of labor in a particular area. It could very well be the case that there is not enough qualified folks in the area to do the work.
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...and has outlived its usefulness.
No it has not. US companies need to have the ability to hire top talent from the global, not just the US. It would hurt American industry if a company could not hire experts from other countries.
Not according this news report. Third world workers are paid less than American workers. US schools produce more scientists and engineers than industries need. So why are Americans not hired? The smart people here already know the answer. Folks, remember the internet is great source of information and misinformation as well. Search for the facts yourself. Look for news from news sources, not from people who talk out of their asses.
Folks, remember the internet is great source of information and misinformation as well. Search for the facts yourself. Look for news from news sources, not from people who talk out of their asses.
IBM fired over 10K people. They could have easily brought back their qualified people.
You are pretending as if all employees are equivalent, but this is not true. A company may be laying off workers in X while having a hard time finding workers in Y.
I don't pretend to know what is going on with IBM, but the fact that they laid off workers by itself does not imply their usage of H1B visas is not legitimate. IBM requires workers with many different skills.
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And while they MAY pay the same salary they do not have to pay benefits.
They typically get benefits, but there is a decent degree of wiggle room in the salaries since usually their is some sort of pay scale and the H1B workers (unless they are experts) tend to get the lower end. At least that is my understanding. But they are not getting sweat shop wages.
Most of the research on H1B visas shows they are most abused by small companies.
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"While the city vows to save and create jobs for recession-ravaged New Yorkers, one of its biggest contractors is importing techies from India, instead of hiring local computer nerds.
IBM won a $1.9 million contract with the Department of Finance to analyze its old main databases so they can be improved, but the company has transported "consultants" from Mumbai and other parts of India to do most of the work."
Thanks for posting the link to this Article. Yeah, it hurts like crazy to see American workers being abandoned left and right. I find the flimsy excuses maddening. From the Article:
Finance spokesman Sam Miller defended the contract.
"Our systems are so old that there are not many companies that have the ability to work on them. IBM does," he said.
The system is old, yet they hired a 25 year-old foreign worker to work on it? From a technical viewpoint, it would seem that an older American worker would know more about this old system than a recently-graduated young man from India.
Anyway, through the Article I found out that there is a Bill S.887 designed to reduce visa fraud working its way through the Senate as we speak. I thought I was passionate about protecting American jobs. But I have to admit I didn't know about this Bill until I read this Article. Now I am wondering how many Americans are like me: whine and argue on the internet but don't do anything to change things. And I also wonder if our silence and passiveness are to be blamed for us losing jobs to foreign workers. Anyway, here is a link to that Bill. Support laws that protect your, my, our jobs.
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