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Old 01-25-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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It can only *positively* influence the grade, not *negatively* influence it.
Right but it's unethical to report to the world that a kid got an D (a passing grade) in a class when he really earned an F and then did a bunch of unrelated stuff to move his grade to passing territory.

I have no problem with letting kids do curriculum related extra credit.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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That's exactly why its unethical. There should be nothing factoring into a student's grade that is not related to the class. If you do poorly on a quiz or a test it should be reflected in your grade. You should not be offered a "buffer" because you participate in the teacher's pet charity, attend a football game, bring in supplies for the class, etc....

I have no problem with extra credit that is curriculum related.

I disagree.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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I only offer extra credit if a student is up to date on turning in all assignments, and any extra credit I offer tends to go above and beyond the content/assignments taught in class.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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Right but it's unethical to report to the world that a kid got an D (a passing grade) in a class when he really earned an F and then did a bunch of unrelated stuff to move his grade to passing territory.

I have no problem with letting kids do curriculum related extra credit.
I've never been in a class where you can go from failing to passing merely on extra credit. I've never seen a teacher offer that much extra credit.

The kid getting an F is probably not the same one who participates in extra credit assignments.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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I disagree.

OK. Do you care to give a reason why you think it's ok to distort someone's academic record with unrelated extra credit?

Remember a grade is not a reward for being a good kid.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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I've never been in a class where you can go from failing to passing merely on extra credit. I've never seen a teacher offer that much extra credit. .
Usually extra credit can move you half a letter grade so going from an F (failing) to a D (passing) is just as possible as going from a B+ to an A.

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The kid getting an F is probably not the same one who participates in extra credit assignments.
You don't know that.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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OK. Do you care to give a reason why you think it's ok to distort someone's academic record with unrelated extra credit?

Remember a grade is not a reward for being a good kid.
Because I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill and I cannot take the assertion that kids are coasting by on extra credit seriously. Sorry to say but the very idea that a student's entire academic record is contingent on the occasional extra credit assignment is really silly to me.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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Right but it's unethical to report to the world that a kid got an D (a passing grade) in a class when he really earned an F and then did a bunch of unrelated stuff to move his grade to passing territory.

I have no problem with letting kids do curriculum related extra credit.
Some people are not really caught up in the grade to that degree. If they want to add an incentive to a particular action (encouraging people to use the class online forum, getting some needed extra supplies, encouraging community service) they might attach some extra credit points to it.

And really... it is highly unlikely people offer enough in the way of possible extra credit points that it could move a student's grade up by more than half a step (like say a B to a B+). A D student is not going to get a B due to extra credit.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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You don't know that.
Experienced teachers would, yes.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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Usually extra credit can move you half a letter grade so going from an F (failing) to a D (passing) is just as possible as going from a B+ to an A.
Then the kid is extremely close to a D and if he is trying his hardest to do well...I don't have a problem with the kid getting a low D vs. a high F.



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You don't know that.
*shrug* I'd be surprised to find a flat out F student willing to do extra credit work but unwilling to do regular schoolwork.
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