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Old 08-23-2007, 01:00 PM
 
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I would prefer a leader that makes decisions and sticks with them than one that bases decisions on the latest views that the mass media fed public offers this week - and the opposite next week.
Rggr, I agree that it is important that a leader have the courage of their convictions but that can be taken too far as well. It is a sign of mature and sound leadership that can adapt to changing variables with an issue.

I would also hope that when a leader changes strategy or course that it isn't based upon the things that you mentioned but instead on intelligence, consensus, logical and rational deliberation.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:01 PM
 
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How does getting expensive haircuts and/or living in a mansion make you a hypocrite if you say you want to focus more of the nation's attention on poverty? Is he supposed to sell his home and give it all to charity? Last I checked, he's not calling on the rich to give up their lifestyles... only pay a bit more to sustain the economy they benefit the most from, and to focus less resources on, say, debating the estate tax, and more on say, healthcare for the middle class.

Are only the poor allowed to discuss their plight? Last I checked, "rich" America doesn't exactly "listen" to the poor or struggling middle class. It would seem to me they would pay more attention when "one of their own" tries to bring the issue to the forefront.


Just because John Edwards is living in the better half of his "two Americas" doesn't make him a hypocrite.

It's amazing the type of people who post on here carping about "hypocrites" when it's sooo painfully obvious they get their points of view from the likes of "Drug abusers should be jailed" narco abuser Rush Limbaugh and family values, "liberals are destroying America so let me scrub your back and rack with a falafell in the shower" Bill O'Reilly!

Priceless.
The upper middle class is considered rich and pay most of the taxes in this country now. How can someone that gets 1,200. haircuts even begin to realize the fact that some Americans cannot even afford to buy proper food for their kids not because they don't want to but because they can't.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:03 PM
 
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John Edwards is trying to win on his looks like Clinton did oh and his wifes illness. Not either does a President make.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Burlington, VT
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What about Mitt Romney? He lied about living in Massachusetts. He helped the local Mormons lie so they could build a huge temple in Belmont (they said it would be a "picnic ground"). He said his 5 sons don't "need" to serve in Iraq.
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:07 PM
 
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The upper middle class is considered rich and pay most of the taxes in this country now. How can someone that gets 1,200. haircuts even begin to realize the fact that some Americans cannot even afford to buy proper food for their kids not because they don't want to but because they can't.
I don't get your point? He apparently DOES understand that there is a large segment of America that can't afford to buy proper foods for their kids... because one of his major issues is poverty and economic inequality.

Anyway, as always, the $1200 haircut is only half the story:

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(CBS/AP) Beverly Hills stylist Joseph Torrenueva tells the Washington Post that one of his haircuts for Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards cost $1,250 because Torrenueva had to fly to Atlanta and missed two days of work as a result.

"He has nice hair," Torrenueva told the newspaper. "I try to make the man handsome, strong, more mature and these are the things, as an expert, that's what we do."

Torrenueva, a Democrat, said he began cutting Edwards' hair for free but wound up charging him $300 to $500 per haircut, plus the cost of airfare and hotel stays. That's because Torrenueva was often forced to meet Edwards on the campaign trail to shear his locks.
Kind of ridiculous? Sure. Does it mean he's a hypocrite? Not in the least.
Just because you want to help the poor and middle class doesn't mean you have to LIVE like you're poor!
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