Could you vote for a Ron Paul/Herman Cain ticket? (Putin, generations)
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and you just keep voting for Obama and see how far that gets you. and while you're at it understand how money works and realize that IRS and FED got this nation by the juevos.
you said it yourself. the FED is the creator of the money and printer of the fiat unsupported paper money backed by lies and not by Gold, and the IRS are the cops that enforce the fiat money laws.
if that's not in bed together I don't konw what is.
Dude. I'm a Ron Paul supporter.
Generally speaking most Ron Paul fans are well studied in economics, but you are certainly the exception.
The IRS does not enforce "fiat money laws". The IRS has nothing to do with monetary policy whatsoever. IRS doesn't even have much to do with Tax laws. They are simply the enforcer and collector of Tax Laws.
You need to study some more. Knowing your enemy is the best way to defeat them, and thinking that the IRS and FED are the same thing won't get you anywhere fast.
Question do you know what I am talking about when I say "monetary policy"? Serious question. I'll get you started. Monetary policy has nothing to do with taxation*.
*Unless you are referring to the greatest tax of all which is the inflation tax, but I digress.
Generally speaking most Ron Paul fans are well studied in economics, but you are certainly the exception.
The IRS does not enforce "fiat money laws". The IRS has nothing to do with monetary policy whatsoever. IRS doesn't even have much to do with Tax laws. They are simply the enforcer and collector of Tax Laws.
You need to study some more. Knowing your enemy is the best way to defeat them, and thinking that the IRS and FED are the same thing won't get you anywhere fast.
Question do you know what I am talking about when I say "monetary policy"? Serious question. I'll get you started. Monetary policy has nothing to do with taxation*.
*Unless you are referring to the greatest tax of all which is the inflation tax, but I digress.
I never said they were the same. I said they were in bed together.
Monetary Policy is what Bernanke does. set the rate and amount of money poured into the system.
Taxation is what the IRS does. they make sure we pay up. Enforcing the policy that's set by Bernanke.
Now, understanding that, and knowing that we are indeed playing with fiat money, because there is no more Gold to back it up IMO, What don't you understand about my comments?
I think they are in bed together, that's just my observation. there jurisdiction is nder the Fed.
you think their hands are clean? have you seen the IRS code lately? a book so thick you can jack a car up on it.
I never said they were the same. I said they were in bed together.
Monetary Policy is what Bernanke does. set the rate and amount of money poured into the system.
Taxation is what the IRS does. they make sure we pay up. Enforcing the policy that's set by Bernanke.
Now, understanding that, and knowing that we are indeed playing with fiat money, because there is no more Gold to back it up IMO, What don't you understand about my comments?
I think they are in bed together, that's just my observation. there jurisdiction is nder the Fed.
you think their hands are clean? have you seen the IRS code lately? a book so thick you can jack a car up on it.
Oh sweet God! Where is a bang my head against a wall emoticon when I need one?
How many times do I have to say it? The IRS does not enforce monetary policy. Taxation and Monetary policy are no where near the same thing. It's not that I don't understand your comments it's that you don't understand the difference between Fiscal Policy and Monetary Policy.
Taxation falls under the category of Fiscal Policy. Fiscal policy refers to taxes, government spending and government debt. Fiscal policy is controlled by the President and Congress.
Monetary Policy is the manner in which a government controls the money supply. Since 1913 The Federal Reserve (a private bank) has served as the central bank of the United States and has been responsible for setting monetary policy. They are responsible for setting the federal funds rate, controlling the money supply via open market purchases/sales of Treasury securities, and serving as a lender of last resort.
In other words Taxes and IRS do not fall under the "jurisdiction" of the Federal Reserve and Ben Bernanke. The IRS has NOTHING to do with monetary policy or Bernanke.
They both want to end the Fed and therefore they both want a new taxing system. that's a good start.
where else are they opposite?
Haha yeah, sure, Cain wants to end the Fed. You complete believing that bull. Cain's a FED insider bankster. It's an insult to the good Doctor that you posed this question.
Oh sweet God! Where is a bang my head against a wall emoticon when I need one?
How many times do I have to say it? The IRS does not enforce monetary policy. Taxation and Monetary policy are no where near the same thing. It's not that I don't understand your comments it's that you don't understand the difference between Fiscal Policy and Monetary Policy.
Taxation falls under the category of Fiscal Policy. Fiscal policy refers to taxes, government spending and government debt. Fiscal policy is controlled by the President and Congress.
Monetary Policy is the manner in which a government controls the money supply. Since 1913 The Federal Reserve (a private bank) has served as the central bank of the United States and has been responsible for setting monetary policy. They are responsible for setting the federal funds rate, controlling the money supply via open market purchases/sales of Treasury securities, and serving as a lender of last resort.
In other words Taxes and IRS do not fall under the "jurisdiction" of the Federal Reserve and Ben Bernanke. The IRS has NOTHING to do with monetary policy or Bernanke.
I mean honestly are you just effing with me now?
While I appreciate you position and understand what you mean ... The federal income tax was brought about in the same year as the fed. res. act in 1913 - and the reinvention of the IRS came about originally at the same time.
There is a link between the two that is deeper than most might realize, though they apparently are separate issues.
While I appreciate you position and understand what you mean ... The federal income tax was brought about in the same year as the fed. res. act in 1913 - and the reinvention of the IRS came about originally at the same time.
There is a link between the two that is deeper than most might realize, though they apparently are separate issues.
Site is blocked at work. Can you give me the run down?
Is this a conspiracy theory? I don't need conspiracy theories to dislike or want to end the IRS and FED. There are plenty of legit reasons to end them.
Oh sweet God! Where is a bang my head against a wall emoticon when I need one?
How many times do I have to say it? The IRS does not enforce monetary policy. Taxation and Monetary policy are no where near the same thing. It's not that I don't understand your comments it's that you don't understand the difference between Fiscal Policy and Monetary Policy.
Taxation falls under the category of Fiscal Policy. Fiscal policy refers to taxes, government spending and government debt. Fiscal policy is controlled by the President and Congress.
Monetary Policy is the manner in which a government controls the money supply. Since 1913 The Federal Reserve (a private bank) has served as the central bank of the United States and has been responsible for setting monetary policy. They are responsible for setting the federal funds rate, controlling the money supply via open market purchases/sales of Treasury securities, and serving as a lender of last resort.
In other words Taxes and IRS do not fall under the "jurisdiction" of the Federal Reserve and Ben Bernanke. The IRS has NOTHING to do with monetary policy or Bernanke.
I mean honestly are you just effing with me now?
um...you have no clue.
Answer me this question one question: What does Bernanke do? what is his ACTUAL job duty?
and for reference. notice the jurisdiction of the IRS below? the FED!!!
I think for the "Good" of ALL America....
Ron Paul should step aside for Herman Cain,
run as Herman Cain (P)/ Ron Paul (VP).
Only Herman Cain is ABLE to beat Obama... fact.
Ron Paul won't stand even a chance... only will cause more "separation" through the race card game Obama is playing.
Herman Cain can and will "UNITE" the American as one...
(making USA a stronger nation than they are now through unity).
While Obama (obviously through playing his race cards) will cause more separation of the Americans (think Mob), might even led to more discord & harmony in doing that.
Should Ron Paul run against that, it will just divide US citizens more
(weakening the nation further).
Democrats like Ron Paul or Perry... but does not like Herman Cain.
He is the "REAL" threat to their chance of winning the next elections.
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Oh sweet God! Where is a bang my head against a wall emoticon when I need one?
