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Old 10-29-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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They think Romney is the most electable, and that's who they'll back.

Still, have to see how these early primaries go. I stll hope something 'changes' the current status.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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Now that the fundrasing outcome doesn't swing in Obama's favor, it's time to talk about publicly funded campaigns, I guess.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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If Obama's big donors from 2008 are leaving him, whose fault is that?
What does that have to do with who the GOP picks in the primary? You've lost me. If elections are publicly funded, then candidates won't have to depend on the "big money" funders in either party to get the nomination in their party--right now, you have to have money to win. All the candidates will be on equal footing financially, and it will come down to votes to win. The tea party doesn't have the money to run their own people, so they're dependent on the GOP leadership. If campaigns were publicly funded, they could run their own people vs. having to settle for who the r establishment wants to pay for. Right now--you don't get a choice. The debates were fun, but the establishment knew who they would support for the nomination from the beginning.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:20 PM
 
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What does that have to do with who the GOP picks in the primary? You've lost me. If elections are publicly funded, then candidates won't have to depend on the "big money" funders in either party to get the nomination in their party--right now, you have to have money to win. All the candidates will be on equal footing financially, and it will come down to votes to win. The tea party doesn't have the money to run their own people, so they're dependent on the GOP leadership. If campaigns were publicly funded, they could run their own people vs. having to settle for who the r establishment wants to pay for. Right now--you don't get a choice. The debates were fun, but the establishment knew who they would support for the nomination from the beginning.
You were wringing your hands about publicly financed campaigns.

Should David Duke get public funds if he runs under the new OWS party?
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:30 PM
 
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Now that the fundrasing outcome doesn't swing in Obama's favor, it's time to talk about publicly funded campaigns, I guess.
I didn't catch what you were saying at first. Obama's not having trouble raising money--he has a HUGE warchest. His fundraising ability isn't the issue, but he's just as much in bed with some of the big funders as everyone else.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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You were wringing your hands about publicly financed campaigns.

Should David Duke get public funds if he runs under the new OWS party?
They'll have to set some type of threshold of support (small contributions, and early vote, a petition, or maybe just winning your parties primary--I'm not an expert) but if he met that threshold he could get public funds--yes. That's why it would need to be set up in a way where only candidates with serious voter support could receive it. I'm sure people have already sorted out how to do it--I just don't know what the criteria is.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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There's no reason to extend welfare to political candidates.
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:13 PM
 
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not from what ive read on theblaze and freerepublic, which has many tea party members.

theyll stay home or write in.

right now they are all behind cain though.

they wont vote for romney.

Red State and Free Republic Declare War on Mitt Romney Supporters for Some Reason [JR post 132]


That does not speak for the majority of those people that say they are part of the Tea Party. They are the fringe, far far out there people...maybe 10-15% and all of those won't sit it out either. This war on Romney is coming from a few places and all of them are being exposed as we speak. Now, people will do what people will do and when you have Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham and Fox News supporting the igorance and brain washing....you get a candidate like Herman Cain or Rick Perry.
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:28 PM
 
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Just to reiterate and clarify once again some misinformation that keeps being posted on here, Obamacare and the Healthcare Reform in Massachsetts are not the same and Obamacare was not modeled from it or written by the same people. Obamacare was written by the Apollo Foundation which is owned by George Soros, before Obama was even elected and took office. This myth that Obamacare is the same and was modeled from the Massachusett bill is propogand the left wants people to believe. First of all, one bille is 2000 pages long and was passed with little knowledge of what was in it and the state bill is 73 pages long. You figure out how similar they could be. To break it down and make it simple, here is a diagram:



ObamaCare vs RomneyCare: Are You Ready for the Truth? (http://americaneedsmitt.com/blog/obamacare-romneycare-truth/ - broken link)
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:20 AM
 
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Yeah, a Mitt "Flip Flop" Romney website is a trustworthy site to tell people that RomneyCare is no different than ObamaCare....LOL! That's like going to Stormfront to read objective analyses on Jewish history.

Yes, RomneyCare is ObamaCare, which is why Mitt Zombie deleted the line "we can accomplish the same thing nationwide" from his book. Obamacare was modeled after RomneyCare. Even conservatives agree.
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