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Old 11-14-2011, 09:03 AM
 
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Great news. These anti-American Republican corporatists should all be sent packing. They serve corporations, not people.
Yeah, I remember when the Republican president, Rep controlled house and senate passed NAFTA and screwed over the unions and other little guys.

Oh wait, my bad, those were actually the Democrats. I just have the hardest time telling reps and dems apart.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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Yeah, I remember when the Republican president, Rep controlled house and senate passed NAFTA and screwed over the unions and other little guys.

Oh wait, my bad, those were actually the Democrats. I just have the hardest time telling reps and dems apart.
NAFTA was a republican bill and has nothing to do with the greedy right wing corporations shipping jobs to communist china and india. Nice deflection attempt
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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NAFTA was a republican bill and has nothing to do with the greedy right wing corporations shipping jobs to communist china and india. Nice deflection attempt
My mistake. I thought Clinton was a Democrat....because he is the one the signed it.

Then there is Biden, Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle......that helped pass it through a democrat controlled house AND senate.

While a higher percentage of republicans voted for it, the fact remains that huge numbers of dems voted for it and could have easily stopped it.

LOLZ @ greedy right wing corporations shipping jobs. The KING of offshoring is General Electric headed by Immelt. You know, he's the key advisor of Obama who is no doubt also a Republican in your fantastical world.

You don't care about offshoring jobs, you just want to play politics. Let me guess, you used to protest the wars too up until 2008.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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My mistake. I thought Clinton was a Democrat....because he is the one the signed it.

Then there is Biden, Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle......that helped pass it through a democrat controlled house AND senate.

While a higher percentage of republicans voted for it, the fact remains that huge numbers of dems voted for it and could have easily stopped it.
Again it was a republican bill pushed by republicans and with many more GOP congress persons voting for it than the dems. Going "neener neener neener! you guys voted for it!" while "your" side created, pushed and supported it substantially more is a ridiculous argument.

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LOLZ @ greedy right wing corporations shipping jobs. The KING of offshoring is General Electric headed by Immelt. You know, he's the key advisor of Obama who is no doubt also a Republican in your fantastical world.
Someone's been hitting the fox news hard Why don't you provide some proof for your outlandish claims, otherwise this is just more fabricated right wing lies.

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You don't care about offshoring jobs, you just want to play politics.
Wow, you can read minds now? Is that you Miss Cleo?
Lets also not forget the dems tried to pass a couple bills to stop offshoring as of late and of course the right wingers shot them down. To hell with the american people, more and more $$ for the top of the ladder is all that matters, that's the GOP mantra
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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Default Unions as we know them are going to die.

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Outstanding
Even if union thugs use their national thugs and stolen taxpayer money to fund the lying to voters, soon they will lose it all anyway.

It costs so much for unions to lie to the people and if they throw the hundreds of millions here, they won't have it elsewhere to sustain the grip elsewhere.

It's like watching two hands attempting to grasp at a waterfall full of water and finding it all slipping out of their hands.

It's ending soon. Isn't sustainable despite their corrupt influence and outrageous over payments and benefits they bribed politicians to get.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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All the money the unions are wasting in this lost cause, only means less money to help Obama!
I really wonder how many progs have been able to see what you mention here. They will come to the realization once the union leaders realize what they are doing. Maybe.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Too right.

The Left/unions better get on the ball up there collecting the 540,000 VALID signatures they need.



Exactly. They have a choice. WI looks like it will be a close presidential election. We already know conservative WILL come out in droves. Are the unions/Left going to waste millions in a campaign against Walker when they WILL require millions to re-elect obama?

I think they should...sink all their money into a recalling Walker campaign.
Valid signatures? I don't think many union leaders differ from the ACORN leaders when it comes to valid signatures.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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My mistake. I thought Clinton was a Democrat....because he is the one the signed it.
Me too! Why, I'm almost positive Bubba could have vetoed it if he wanted to.
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Again it was a republican bill pushed by republicans and with many more GOP congress persons voting for it than the dems. Going "neener neener neener! you guys voted for it!" while "your" side created, pushed and supported it substantially more is a ridiculous argument.
Doesn't matter who pushed it or passed it, ultimately it WAS signed into law by the President. Why didn't he veto it ?
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Doesn't matter who pushed it or passed it, ultimately it WAS signed into law by the President. Why didn't he veto it ?
Any Republican businessman or corporate CEO did not HAVE to do business with other countries as a result of NAFTA, they only had the freedom to. Are you proposing that we take this freedom away from them?
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