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View Poll Results: Has the GOP gone too far to the right of what real conservatism is?
Big time 72 70.59%
Somewhat 6 5.88%
Neutral/they are the same 6 5.88%
No, they are too far left 18 17.65%
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-14-2012, 02:28 PM
 
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This is a good segment from Paul that states the GOP are likely going to lose again in the 2012 presidential run with a big part of it from their support of more warmongering, which leads to more spending, the support of big government legislation like the patriot act, and other fundamentals that are not conservative at all, rather far right extremism. Now the question, have conservatives/GOP gone off the deep end and are no longer their former self because of the hard right wingnuts?

Ron Paul: GOP going to be the John McCain party in 2012 | The Raw Story
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I would have voted for a simple "no"... as I'm waiting for them to fall off the cliff. So I chose, somewhat.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
Warmongering? Obama started a new war.

More government spending?? Obama has added about $5 trillion in new debt.

Patriot Act? Obama has expanded it. So far the extreme right, that you are fear-mongering about, is going on with president Obama.

These hard right Tea Party 'wiingnuts" wish to reverse all of the crap we saw under Bush, and especially under Obama.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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right in rhetoric, but business as usual in principles. Same with Dems (left). It's all smoke and mirrors.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Why is it that to be to the far right or far left is some kind of ideal of both parties when this just causes conflict and to get results we need moderates and not extremists?
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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If the Repubs would stop the warmongering and catering to the Religious Imagineers, we'd have a REAL alternative to the Democrats. Until then, they are the same party and all us voters get to choose is the name we like better.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Last time Republicans were in office, they spent like drunken sailors (spending almost as much in 8 years as Obama has now spent in three), enacted new entitlements, and didn't do squat to reduce the huge burden of restrictions and regulation by the Federal government.

They are still WAY too far left.

And the American people agreed, voting them out of office in 2006 and 2006, for exactly those reasons.

They will be very much under probation when they gain office in November. This may be their last chance to return to sane government. If they don't do it, who will? Certainly not the Democrat big-government fanatics we now have.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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Last time Republicans were in office, they spent like drunken sailors (spending almost as much in 8 years as Obama has now spent in three), enacted new entitlements, and didn't do squat to reduce the huge burden of restrictions and regulation by the Federal government.

They are still WAY too far left.

And the American people agreed, voting them out of office in 2006 and 2006, for exactly those reasons.

They will be very much under probation when they gain office in November. This may be their last chance to return to sane government. If they don't do it, who will? Certainly not the Democrat big-government fanatics we now have.
That's the point, the GOP are not too far left, they are to the extreme right with their insane spending, warmongering, and huge government (same goes for Obama) which Paul was stating.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Just look at the current R presidential field. We've got an ex-gov from the most liberal state in the nation, the only state to have voted for McGovern in 1972. A 'social' conservative/fiscal liberal who supported the bridge to nowhere even after it had been outed as a travesty of pork. A guy who singlehandedly derailed the conservative revolution of 1994 and then became a consultant for Freddie Mac. Only Paul can really lay claim to having much of a conservative track record, and he's at around 5 percent in the delegate count.

The GOP grass roots tends to be pretty conservative, but the electeds, no.
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The GOP grass roots tends to be pretty conservative, but the electeds, no.
I guess, conservatism is born neutered, then?
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