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Old 05-01-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican. In fact, I hold both parties in equal disdain. However, It's difficult to ignore the ideological drift that's occurred in The Republican Party over the last few decades.

Just look back at the Eisenhower and Nixon years: unionized labor was respected, or at least was tolerated as a necessary cost of doing business. Environmental concerns weren't ridiculed by party leaders. Taxation of the ultra-wealthy wasn't considered to be un-American. There was often a genuine desire for ideologically-disparate elected officials to work together respectfully to achieve rational legislation.

Today, The Republican Party seems to be little more than an ideological mouthpiece for social conservatives who are entrenched in hate-mongering; and who have a paranoid concern that their traditional culture will be toppled by renegade legions of blacks, gays, immigrants, feminists, and the ghost of Karl Marx. Republican candidates who hearken back to a more reasonable line of thinking are quickly dispensed with by the party machine. The problem is what it is.

 
Old 05-01-2012, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I haven't always agreed with Hagel, but I've always respected him.

He's not the only "old school Republican" who is having issues recognizing today's GOP.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Lol, I think you need to explain yourself.

No, he doesn't.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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Lol, nah, I think you are confusing the 2 pieces.
Well now you're just showing strait up bias.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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Norms drivel if you will, at least has some effort put in.
Ornstein ignores the fact that team red has pulled what's considered "acceptable" political discourse to the right to an insane degree while team blue has gone along with it, maintaining an ever-increasingly right wing status quo.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Look up! Something just flew right over your head.
Yeah! .... A rock hurled by some OWS malcontent!
 
Old 05-01-2012, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Geauga County, Ohio
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Ornstein ignores the fact that team red has pulled what's considered "acceptable" political discourse to the right to an insane degree while team blue has gone along with it, maintaining an ever-increasingly right wing status quo.
What????

OBAMACARE. That's all I need to say.

Right wing status quo my nicely shaped ass.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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One major difference between the two parties:

With some exceptions, the Tea Party doesn't swallow the ideolgical drivel whole.

On the other hand, the hard-core failures at the center of the Democrat-Liberal-Radical Axis would believe the moon is made of gold, if someone named Kennedy told them.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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One major difference between the two parties:

With some exceptions, the Tea Party doesn't swallow the ideolgical drivel whole.

On the other hand, the hard-core failures at the center of the Democrat-Liberal-Radical Axis would believe the moon is made of gold, if someone named Kennedy told them.

I think you have this backwards.
 
Old 05-01-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Yet the most moderate candidate won the Republican Primary. The Dems really are the problem.

The Democrats are the problem (a second view) « Hot Air

Let?s just say it: The Democrats are the problem « Hot Air

But yet the party as a whole does not like him Rather you believe it or not if it was not for the monetary backing we would not be talking about him at all.

Here is the breakdown of the republican party:

romney represents the wealthiest republicans
santorum represents the religous extremist
gringrich represents the nutjobs (teabaggers)
cain/palin/bachman represents the (un)dereducated and misinformed (teaparty)

I did not mention ron Paul since he is not a real republican and only ran on that ticket in order to be heard
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