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As far as their hosts, do you think that - say - Sean Hannity would say he didn't care who won the election this year?
Sean Hannity has never pretended to be "fair and balanced." He has come out and said, on numerous occasions, that he is a Conservative and he wants Obama gone from the White House.
As far as who wins the election, Hannity repeatedly has said that he did not care who won the GOP nomination, that he would vote for the most likely candidate to beat Obama in 2012.
That certainly does not sound "fair" or "balanced" to me, but at least he is not trying to fool anyone into believing that he is something he is not.
I don't know, create a thread that asks that and stop deflecting, besides, does MSNBC have "fair and balanced" as their slogan.
Fox news calling itself fair and balanced is like Limbaugh calling himself a fit metrosexual
Fox should change their slogan to "Fox news, where ultra far right extremists get fair and balanced news"
Fox's hard news shows are balanced, this thread is about fox & Friends; is anyone suggesting an early morning entertainment show, like F&F or Good Morning America is hard news?
Yawn.
There are no American unbiased TV news stations, newspapers, or radio stations. They all report opinion as fact. They all refuse to report anything having to do with reality; i.e., the radiation from the Fukashima reactors, the 'bank runs' in Greece and Spain, the economic factors and impacts of laws, from Ford investing taxpayer bailout money in China to the Chinese being given access to American debt through the Federal Reserve.
The whole purpose of the so-called news media is to keep the public hyper-emotionalized over things that don't matter or to polarize them on personalities instead of facts. That goes for all of them; the "fair and balanced" Fox - which isn't - or CNN, CNBC, ABC, MSNBC.
But - it isn't really their fault that they think John Q. is a mouthbreathing, emotionalized, drama-queen-inspired idiot. Their ratings prove what sells - not in-depth coverage of the causes of unemployment, not long and involved comparisons of Keynesian vs Austrian economics, not discussions of the impacts of Chernobyl vs Fukashima vs the Gulf oil spill on food resources and human consumption. When you viewers, in the main, consist of people who argue in real time with their 400 "friends" on Facebook about who is going to be the next one to get voted off of Survivor or go on to the finals of American Idol, you have to cater to your largest demographic... those selfsame mouthbreathers, who are bored by facts and who flip the channel the minute they see graphs and pie charts.
The American public wants, needs, the brainless mind-pap they are fed; they want and need the emotionalized arguments presented by Chris Mathews and Glen Beck, they demand the endless arguments about LiLo or Treyvon, they live their lives around which celebrity slugged which grocery-store magazine's paparazzi this week and called it "winning". They no more care about 'economic impacts' or socioeconomic deconstruction than they are aware that there are such things.
Don't shoot the messenger, just because he screams the messages that everyone demands to hear, to justify their own beliefs and self-satisfied claims that they are the ones with the real inside story.
This is about the only reasonable comment in this thread, and will likely be ignored for that reason. I just wanted to quote you so that hopefully someone will read it.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for commercial "news" organizations to objectively report anything. The closest we have in the US is PBS/NPR/APR, but even some of their programming is underwritten by corporations.
The purpose of cable news is to get you to watch commercials, not to actually keep you informed. That Roger Allies was able to inject his political leanings into Rupert Murdoch's money making venture is the genius of FOX News.
So what? For the past few years both MSNBC and CNN have worked in collusion to create the world's longest anti-Republican/Tea Party/Sarah Palin and pro-Obama commercial under the guise of "news".
Everyone who has the mental power to handle a TV remote knows that Fox is right wing. Especially the GOP. They dance to Fox's tune. Murdoch owns a good part of the Republican Party. No one should expect Murdoch to do anything BUT sing the praises of the GOP and slag on Obama endlessly.
"you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time".....so if FOX is fooling the 'people' they should have no audience at all.
The other network and cable 'news' and commentary shows are so blatently biased they loose audience support.
The insidious thing is these shows silently ply their bias, hoping no one will notice. The glaring exception is the MSNBC lineup.
What is the diff when CNN and MSNBC do constant segments which show Obama fullfilling all his campaign promies and saving the economy? The only difference is the format does not look like a campaign ad. You can fool some of the peopleall of the time and it is that miniscule audience to which they play.
Everyone who has the mental power to handle a TV remote knows that Fox is right wing. Especially the GOP. They dance to Fox's tune. Murdoch owns a good part of the Republican Party. No one should expect Murdoch to do anything BUT sing the praises of the GOP and slag on Obama endlessly.
Fox is what it is - an extremely biased cable channel masquerading as a "news" source. RWNJs love it.
MSNBC is almost as bad on the opposite side of the aisle.
Take your pick.
If it's truly unbiased news you want, then tune in to NPR.
sorry, but NPR is completely liberal. The hosts are mostly all liberal, I only know of one or two who hide their bias, the 95% of the rest are libs. Their go-to sources for opinion is the LA times, New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe and liberal universities. The most commonly utter phrase on NPR, with their liberal hosts, liberal guests and liberal callers is "Oh, I agree".
"you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time".....so if FOX is fooling the 'people' they should have no audience at all.
The other network and cable 'news' and commentary shows are so blatently biased they loose audience support.
The insidious thing is these shows silently ply their bias, hoping no one will notice. The glaring exception is the MSNBC lineup.
What is the diff when CNN and MSNBC do constant segments which show Obama fullfilling all his campaign promies and saving the economy? The only difference is the format does not look like a campaign ad. You can fool some of the peopleall of the time and it is that miniscule audience to which they play.
Once again, it's Fox & Friends!! If you don't know that F&F is paneled with conservatives, and it's a light hearted, early morning entertainment show, then you are an idiot. F&F is not hard news.
I don't even watch morning shows like F&F or Good morning America, because they are so slanted in their politics, and usually talk about crap I'm sick of hearing about, or am uninterested in.
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The commentators do not claim to be unbiased, but they claim to present both sides of the argument diligently.
Which is utter BS. Having some "liberal" on with zero influence to berate and shout at and interrupt and cut off doesn't actually qualify as presenting both sides of the argument.
Why is it so hard for the right to acknowledge that Fox presents an extremely biased version of the "news" (often created by their "opinion" shows)? Yes, MSNBC is biased, and unabashedly so. Fox and its viewers for some reason feel the need to lie about the network's bias even when it does something like make an anti-Obama attack ad.
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