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Old 06-14-2012, 12:21 PM
 
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In Michigan Baydoun/Foster a Democratic Party affiliated pollster has Obama +1 in the state while MRA has Romney +1.

Michigan is clearly in play and is a swing state. If it was not in play, Obama wouldn't be spending money here, having our Democratic Senators make robo-calls on his behalf and hosting events, and he wouldn't have visited here 11 times in a campaign setting.

Michigan is in play period.

Romney will be in Michigan on Tuesday next week. I may attend.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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LOL...we posted threads about this poll at the exact same time.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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In Michigan Baydoun/Foster a Democratic Party affiliated pollster has Obama +1 in the state while MRA has Romney +1.

Michigan is clearly in play and is a swing state. If it was not in play, Obama wouldn't be spending money here, having our Democratic Senators make robo-calls on his behalf and hosting events, and he wouldn't have visited here 11 times in a campaign setting.

Michigan is in play period.

Romney will be in Michigan on Tuesday next week. I may attend.
Yep, it's in play..no denying that anymore.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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In Michigan Baydoun/Foster a Democratic Party affiliated pollster has Obama +1 in the state while MRA has Romney +1.

Michigan is clearly in play and is a swing state. If it was not in play, Obama wouldn't be spending money here, having our Democratic Senators make robo-calls on his behalf and hosting events, and he wouldn't have visited here 11 times in a campaign setting.

Michigan is in play period.

Romney will be in Michigan on Tuesday next week. I may attend.
Well if that is the case then NC,FL are also in play for Obama. Anyway Obama leads by an average of 4.7 and has for some time now.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Michigan: Romney vs. Obama
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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Detroit is losing population left and right. Makes sense.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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Well if that is the case then NC,FL are also in play for Obama. Anyway Obama leads by an average of 4.7 and has for some time now.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Michigan: Romney vs. Obama
NC is done for obama. Think about it. He won in 2008 by 14K votes...you think the enthusiasm and approval is there for him to squeak by again? No way.

Florida IS a swing state...but leans RED.

MI, WI are BLUE and in play.

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Detroit is losing population left and right. Makes sense.
Because of what the democrats have done to that state with their ruinous policies.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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Well if that is the case then NC,FL are also in play for Obama. Anyway Obama leads by an average of 4.7 and has for some time now.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Michigan: Romney vs. Obama
Of course FL is in play...it always is.

That being said, I've said this a million times before and I'll say it again (even though I'm sure you'll ignore me as always) - an incumbent's performance in polls is far more predictive than a challenger's performance...especially 5 months before an election. What's more important is the incumbent's approval rating. The last time an incumbent president overperformed their approval rating (nationally) as a percentage of the vote was Carter in 1980...yet he still lost in a landslide. Obama's approval is below 50% in the vast majority of polls - if not in every recent poll - in FL, NC, VA, OH, CO, and even PA.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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MI, WI are BLUE and in play.
Yes, no Republican has won WI in a presidential election since 1984 or MI since 1988.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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Yes, no Republican has won WI in a presidential election since 1984 or MI since 1988.
The WI stat is a little misleading because in 2000 and 2004, Bush lost that state by small margins. So, with enough energy and GOTV, WI is certainly in play this cycle.

Heck, we should throw IA in there too. The Christian vote there won't be too happy with a gay-marriage supporting president.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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For some reason, the new poll is not listed yet;

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Michigan: Romney vs. Obama

This pollster tends to lean democrat as well.

Foster McCollum White & Associates & Baydoun Consulting Michigan Poll (June 2012)
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