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The argument that "both sides do it" is an absurd one, that makes no more sense than saying "both sides killed people" during WWII. By every measure, the GOP and the Right have been hi-jacked by their extremists, who have been systematically (and famously) purging all the moderates... and are now simply calling the remainder the new "normal"!
But when nearly half your party seriously believes the POTUS is a foreign-born muslim (!!), then even "moving the goal posts" for what's "normal", can't hide the fact that the Right has clearly lost all sense of proportion now (let alone any sense of moral equivalency)!
Unless you really believe that PETA, the NAACP, and the OWS movement are "equivalents" for Timothy McVeigh, Jared Loughner, the John Birch Society, Omega 7, Alpha 66, Militia groups, the KKK, the White League, Skinheads, Clinton-killed-Vince-Foster conspiracies, theocratic Dominionists, Glenn Beck "joo-baiting", Birthers, Koran-burning ministers, abortion-doctor assassins, Gay Bashers (and killers), etc., etc....and of course the current huge crowd of wingnuts who fervently believe that Obama, his wife and his children are all uppity, mau-mauing, socialist, muslim, Kenyan dog-eating thugs with Nazi tendencies (who BTW, are gonna take away all their guns...)?!
Nah not even close. Look at this forum, there are honestly more obnoxious liberals than conservatives here in your mind? Also check out any political Yahoo news story and see what nutjobs run the comment board show. I know probably 4x as many liberals as conservatives but its usually those loud abrasive teabaggers who everyone avoids, most liberals are laid back people with a few loudmouths.
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I believe I've made my point. I haven't seen one conservative come on here and tell me I'm wrong, that liberals are way worse. Not one. If anything I could deduce from that that liberals are more obnoxious. But I won't, because I know that's not true. Nor is the opposite true
Let me also add that I once thought, while reading these forums or the comments section POLITICO among other places, "Wow, conservatives are so much more respectful than these obnoxious liberals." It was not easy to put my bias aside, but I did. I looked at it objectively and realized that based on my perspectives and bias, my threshold for what I consider obnoxious was different for each side. And that's not fair. Notice - most conservatives on here think liberals are more obnoxious, and most liberals think conservatives are more obnoxious. That ain't no coincidence my friends
I believe I've made my point. I haven't seen one conservative come on here and tell me I'm wrong, that liberals are way worse. Not one. If anything I could deduce from that that liberals are more obnoxious. But I won't, because I know that's not true. Nor is the opposite true
Let me also add that I once thought, while reading these forums or the comments section POLITICO among other places, "Wow, conservatives are so much more respectful than these obnoxious liberals." It was not easy to put my bias aside, but I did. I looked at it objectively and realized that based on my perspectives and bias, my threshold for what I consider obnoxious was different for each side. And that's not fair. Notice - most conservatives on here think liberals are more obnoxious, and most liberals think conservatives are more obnoxious. That ain't no coincidence my friends
Yes, making fun of 2 posters you dislike proves your point
When you think of an obnoxious loudmouth rude a-hole, a conservative automatically comes to mind. Liberals for the most part are meek, polite, retiring people; think of the nation of Canada which is known for its politeness and liberalism. A rude obnoxious person is generally thought of as such because they are making rude remarks about gays, minorities or religious minorities. There are obviously some Democrats who are ill mannered but the word "redneck" means an ill mannered bigoted person and pretty much never refers to liberals.
Yes, making fun of 2 posters you dislike proves your point
When you think of an obnoxious loudmouth rude a-hole, a conservative automatically comes to mind. Liberals for the most part are meek, polite, retiring people; think of the nation of Canada which is known for its politeness and liberalism. A rude obnoxious person is generally thought of as such because they are making rude remarks about gays, minorities or religious minorities. There are obviously some Democrats who are ill mannered but the word "redneck" means an ill mannered bigoted person and pretty much never refers to liberals.
The part I highlighted in red is why I'm having to clean spewed soda off my floor now.
Canada is nice because of it's culture, not politics. You must not have been paying attention to Wisconsin during Walker's recall debacle. Liberals put on quite the show. Far, far worse than what you'll see modern day conservatives do. The stuff you describe come from a very small sampling of conservatives who are rejected by conservatives as a whole, unlike liberals who embrace their crazies.
Yes, making fun of 2 posters you dislike proves your point
When you think of an obnoxious loudmouth rude a-hole, a conservative automatically comes to mind. Liberals for the most part are meek, polite, retiring people; think of the nation of Canada which is known for its politeness and liberalism. A rude obnoxious person is generally thought of as such because they are making rude remarks about gays, minorities or religious minorities. There are obviously some Democrats who are ill mannered but the word "redneck" means an ill mannered bigoted person and pretty much never refers to liberals.
Republican media bullies have been on the attack for 35 years with zero blowback. Bullying is part of the mentality - a basic need for dominance and control. They do wilt in the face of opposition - and it doesn't take much before the voices become shrill.
But what kind of sorry person counts Obama bumper stickers as if it means anything? Might as well count lawn signs.
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I believe I've made my point. I haven't seen one conservative come on here and tell me I'm wrong, that liberals are way worse. Not one. If anything I could deduce from that that liberals are more obnoxious. But I won't, because I know that's not true. Nor is the opposite true
Let me also add that I once thought, while reading these forums or the comments section POLITICO among other places, "Wow, conservatives are so much more respectful than these obnoxious liberals." It was not easy to put my bias aside, but I did. I looked at it objectively and realized that based on my perspectives and bias, my threshold for what I consider obnoxious was different for each side. And that's not fair. Notice - most conservatives on here think liberals are more obnoxious, and most liberals think conservatives are more obnoxious. That ain't no coincidence my friends
So asylum inmates find out if they're "normal"... by asking each other?!
Yes, making fun of 2 posters you dislike proves your point
When you think of an obnoxious loudmouth rude a-hole, a conservative automatically comes to mind. Liberals for the most part are meek, polite, retiring people; think of the nation of Canada which is known for its politeness and liberalism. A rude obnoxious person is generally thought of as such because they are making rude remarks about gays, minorities or religious minorities. There are obviously some Democrats who are ill mannered but the word "redneck" means an ill mannered bigoted person and pretty much never refers to liberals.
When did I make fun of anyone? And what makes you think I dislike you? I don't agree with you, but I generally like you. Maybe you don't like me, but whatever. I'm not too worried about it.
And your stereotypes are kind of... weird. Like, those things don't come to my mind at all. They come to a liberal's mind, which is exactly my point. Many conservatives stereotype liberals as being obnoxious hippies. I don't know anyone who thinks of comments about gays and minorities when they think of obnoxious people. Maybe some of us think of Greenpeace or indecent gay pride parades or people who hate on religion or union thugs like what we saw during the WI recall. Those are what come to conservatives minds when they think of "obnoxious." For most middle Americans, they probably think of all the things you've mentioned AND all the things I've mentioned.
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