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Old 11-08-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Nate Silver's projections were the most accurate in predicting the actual results in both popular vote and the electoral college. Rasmussen and Gallup missed the mark and should have no credibility in future elections.

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Gallup and Fox News favorite Rasmussen Reports — whose surveys consistently predicted a better outcome for Republican Mitt Romney — missed the mark.

Parsing polls: Nate Silver picks on target, Rasmussen not so much - latimes.com
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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Why am I not surprised?
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Nate Silver's projections were the most accurate in predicting the actual results in both popular vote and the electoral college. Rasmussen and Gallup missed the mark and should have no credibility in future elections.

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Gallup and Fox News favorite Rasmussen Reports — whose surveys consistently predicted a better outcome for Republican Mitt Romney — missed the mark.

Parsing polls: Nate Silver picks on target, Rasmussen not so much - latimes.com
This article comes from the librul media. What do you expect it to say?
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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^^^ And you just keep thinkin' that way...
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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I don't believe this. See, first you gotta "unskew" the findings to get to the real findings which would then result in Rasmussen being the most accurate.

/sarcasm
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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Right now Romney is president of Unskewmerica.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Hmm, you do realize that Nate Silver is an aggregator, right? In other words, he takes an aggregate of polls in order to make his predictions. Without Rasmussen and Gallup, as well as many other polling companies, he would have zero data to work with, which would make him obsolete.

Whoever wrote the article should lose their job for comparing apples and oranges.

All that being said, yes, Nate Silver's prediction was accurate, but that prediction was based on information from polling companies.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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From the OP's link:

Ohio -- Rasmussen: dead heat. Actual: Obama by 2.
Virginia -- Rasmussen: Romney +2. Actual: Obama by 3.
Iowa -- Rasmussen: Romney +1. Actual: Obama by 6.
Wisconsin -- Rasmussen: tie. Actual: Obama by 7.
Colorado -- Rasmussen: Romney +3. Actual: Obama by 5.



We're laughin' at you Rasmussen


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Ya clueless con blowhard...
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I believe I read somewhere that the Dems provide their internal polling numbers to Nate? If so, he uses these numbers in addition to numbers from other pollsters. I'll definitely read his book. He may be on Jon Stewart tonight.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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Hmm, you do realize that Nate Silver is an aggregator, right? In other words, he takes an aggregate of polls in order to make his predictions. Without Rasmussen and Gallup, as well as many other polling companies, he would have zero data to work with, which would make him obsolete.

Whoever wrote the article should lose their job for comparing apples and oranges.

All that being said, yes, Nate Silver's prediction was accurate, but that prediction was based on information from polling companies.

Yes, Nate Silver is an aggregator. He is not a pollster so you cannot compare the type of work that the two do.

I think the point being made by the OP is that people were relying heavily on Rasmussen as "the word" while tearing Nate Silver down as often as possible and even saying he was liberally biased. While he may have voted for Obama, all he was doing is aggregating data.

To take stock and analyze ALL polls and come up with a model is going to get you as close to perfect as one can get. The fact that some C-D posters where trying to paint Rasmussen's predictions as more accurate than an aggregator's predictions is just silly.
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