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You did not read what I said. I said if someone is opposed to "full marriage equality" they are anti gay. Supporting either marriage or civil unions are fine. If your opposed to both then your anti gay. By the way I do not identify as Liberal. I am curious though, do you support same sex couples getting all the same rights and benefits as hetero-sexual married couples?
I don't oppose civil unions for gay couples. I just oppose marriage in the traditional, Biblical sense.
Wrong! Believing in traditional marriage only for a man and a woman does not make one anti-gay. Civil unions as far as I know get the same rights as a real marriage. Why does one have to sacrifice their biblical beliefs in order not to be called anti-gay? You liberals crack me up. No compromise "it's my way or the highway".
There is not one state that civil unions have the same rights as marriage. The federal government doesn't recognize any civil unions. And several states don't even have civil unions.
Blind faith is believing all that exists suddenly emerged from nothing without being caused to do so or that something has always existed and somehow escaped being forever stuck in eternity past.
Something greater than time must exist in order for time to be created.
Something greater than space must exist in order for space to be created.
Something greater than matter must exist for matter to be created.
Something doesn't come from nothing because nothing is just that, nothing.
It is you who need to keep your crazy religion (Atheism) with its unAmerican values out of public policy and government.
You don't know what I believe about the origins of the universe. Do you believe as your bible tells you that the Earth is 6,000 yrs old? Do you believe the sun revolves around the earth?
You don't even know what Atheism means, nor whether I am an atheist.
Bottom line, it is most certainly not un-American to be an atheist.
People, this is the kind of country you get when bible thumpers run the place. They label unbelievers un-American.
I would vote for the right if they would draw back to the issues they are best at.
Dump the anit gay thing. Even Dick Cheney has a gay daughter and does not have a problem with it.
Dump the anti abortion thing.
Dump the any war is good and we need a military that is bigger than the next 20 nations combined we can't afford it.
Dump the idea that you can get rid of Social Security and Medicare and you can stop some kind of socialized medicine.
Keep the idea that we need to get our spending in order and dump the idea that the rich are the makers and the workers are the takers. You have cut too many of the voters to ever win.
Dump the idea that that this is the greatest nation in the world and start to say for you its the best place and greatest place in the world. It makes you look dumb when you tell everyone "this is the greatest place in the world. " Based on what? Many people feel they live in the greatest nation in the world. People living in London love it there and would not think of moving. So too with people who live in Germany and France. Many Americans become X-Patriots and move to these places.
Quit pandering to the far right religious nuts and saying things like legitimate rape and god has a plan for rape babies. When some idiot does and they are on your side dump them and tell the world they are not part of the party platform.
Are you worried that the base will not vote for you? Where are they going to go? The tea baggers can't seem to win an election. They have a much worse record than the Republicans.
Stop saying out of one side of your mouth that global warming is fake then its not man made. Which is it? Fake or Natures cycle? This is going to be an unwindable hill to die on. You can say we need all the evidence in before we make desisions on how to change our whole way of life ect. But when the Koch brothers commissioned a study and it shows its real and man made, how do you think you can keep fighting it? This is worse than fighting for Tobacco as it affects many more people, All of them in fact.
You can't keep picking these hills to die on. Its not winnable. We don't need all the military build up we have, we don't need to put Christian prayer back into school. You know what? If some Christian kid is a real christian he/she can just say a prayer in their head and you know what? No one has to know.
What about the scripture that tells you not to be displaying your godliness to be show others how pious you are and pray to your god is secret.
If you want to survive as a party and a force in the USA you are going to have to change. If not keep steering into the ice berg.
so, in other words they should sell themselves to your way of thinking, just to get your vote. I am not sure either should abandon their principles for a few votes. I guess you want to see one big happyparty?
I don't oppose civil unions for gay couples. I just oppose marriage in the traditional, Biblical sense.
Well that is fine, you are not anti-gay. However with the marriage debate coming front and center I am truly disappointed that no one in congress from the GOP has come forth with an alternative to marriage and introduce a civil union bill at the Federal level. I seem to remember a few say they would be in favor of some sort of legal recognition for same sex couples as long as it is not "too much like marriage". That is anti-gay.
I wholeheartedly agree with the OP, but once you take away all of the bitterness, greed and hatred from the Republican platform, what do you have left? If they did everything you suggest, they'd be comfortable endorsing Obama.
I wish the left would quit attacking the rights beliefs at every turn.
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it will never happen: they think we are all a bunch of bigots, we are all right wing, religious nut cases, have no candidates that could win the job as dog catcher, are all white, from the southern states, uneducated, and will need to change our minds to think like they do, in order to win any election...
There is not one state that civil unions have the same rights as marriage. The federal government doesn't recognize any civil unions. And several states don't even have civil unions.
The only example I can think of where civil unions do not have the same rights is SS survivor benefits and that should be changed. If I pay into SS and I die, it should not make a difference who my partner is, they should have my benefits, if they are more than his/hers. In many other cases civil unions do have the same rights.
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