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Old 10-07-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton is an intelligent woman, to be sure, but she is also a liar (recall the corkscrew landing?), devoid of charm, and carrying all the baggage of her husband. And many of us have serious ethical conflicts with the same family in the White House for 16 years. I clearly remember Bill saying you get two for the price of one in 1992, so this would be double-dipping. Why do democrats keep putting her up as the only option?

If we have Hillary at the top of the ticket, a number of people, like myself, will either stay home, or write in an alternative.

Why are the party gurus so blind to this sentiment?
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Hillary Clinton is an intelligent woman, to be sure, but she is also a liar (recall the corkscrew landing?), devoid of charm, and carrying all the baggage of her husband. And many of us have serious ethical conflicts with the same family in the White House for 16 years. I clearly remember Bill saying you get two for the price of one in 1992, so this would be double-dipping. Why do democrats keep putting her up as the only option?

If we have Hillary at the top of the ticket, a number of people, like myself, will either stay home, or write in an alternative.

Why are the party gurus so blind to this sentiment?
Mommy issues.
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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It is the pwogs obsession with 'firsts'. While I am not saying any party's candidates have been sterling over the past 20 or so years, I am saying there does seem to be a preternatural obsession with 'firsts', beyond any reason, within the progressive movement. First for the sake of being first.

Tis part of the celebrity and reality culture that has replaced sober thought and faith-based principles. This replacement of traditional society has spawned Snooky, the Kardashians, Duck Dynasty, Honey Boo Boo, rapper and hip hop, twerking, among others.
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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It is the pwogs obsession with 'firsts'. While I am not saying any party's candidates have been sterling over the past 20 or so years, I am saying there does seem to be a preternatural obsession with 'firsts', beyond any reason, within the progressive movement. First for the sake of being first.

Tis part of the celebrity and reality culture that has replaced sober thought and faith-based principles. This replacement of traditional society has spawned Snooky, the Kardashians, Duck Dynasty, Honey Boo Boo, rapper and hip hop, twerking, among others.
Well lets hope Hillary does not start any twerking I can see that on MTV with their idiot crowd.
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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She would be soooooo, cool. The first twerking woman president. Reason enough for my vote.
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Well lets hope Hillary does not start any twerking I can see that on MTV with their idiot crowd.
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Well lets hope Hillary does not start any twerking I can see that on MTV with their idiot crowd.
Now why did you have to put THAT image in my head....!
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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Hillary Clinton is an intelligent woman, to be sure, but she is also a liar (recall the corkscrew landing?), devoid of charm, and carrying all the baggage of her husband. And many of us have serious ethical conflicts with the same family in the White House for 16 years. I clearly remember Bill saying you get two for the price of one in 1992, so this would be double-dipping. Why do democrats keep putting her up as the only option?

If we have Hillary at the top of the ticket, a number of people, like myself, will either stay home, or write in an alternative.

Why are the party gurus so blind to this sentiment?
I doubt many Democrats will sit out if Hillary is the nominee. As of right now she is dominating opinion polls, that said though a lot can change until the first votes in Iowa are cast.

Hillary won't have any trouble keeping Obama's coalition together and she will expand that coalition with women voters and white working class voters. That's why "party gurus" think she would be a smart choice as the Democratic nominee.
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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I doubt many Democrats will sit out if Hillary is the nominee. As of right now she is dominating opinion polls, that said though a lot can change until the first votes in Iowa are cast.

Hillary won't have any trouble keeping Obama's coalition together and she will expand that coalition with women voters and white working class voters. That's why "party gurus" think she would be a smart choice as the Democratic nominee.
The party gurus are wrong, IMO. They are drinking their own kool aid. America needs fresh blood. I don't want to see a Clinton or a Bush in the Oval Office for the rest of my days. We have 300 million people in this country, we don't need to recycle politicians. These are just my opinions, but I suspect I am not the only one who holds them. To quote Bill Clinton, Democrats don't fall in line, they fall in love. I think Hillary Clinton would be the Romney of the left. A seemingly practical choice, but voters would lack conviction.

I would love to see a woman president, but I think it will be a moderate republican.
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:15 PM
 
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Now why did you have to put THAT image in my head....!
And then Michelle Obama booty popping
AWWW YEeaAHHH!

Demo-CRUNK!!!
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:24 PM
 
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The party gurus are wrong, IMO. They are drinking their own kool aid. America needs fresh blood. I don't want to see a Clinton or a Bush in the Oval Office for the rest of my days. We have 300 million people in this country, we don't need to recycle politicians. These are just my opinions, but I suspect I am not the only one who holds them. To quote Bill Clinton, Democrats don't fall in line, they fall in love. I think Hillary Clinton would be the Romney of the left. A seemingly practical choice, but voters would lack conviction.

I would love to see a woman president, but I think it will be a moderate republican.
I fail to see how Hillary is the "Romney of the left." Romney had to disavow just about everything he did or said as Massachusetts' governor. Hillary is comfortable running nationally as a Democrat. Romney wasn't comfortable running nationally as a Republican.
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