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Old 11-01-2013, 09:17 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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Hillary is a very intelligent woman and a helluva good politician (she ran Bill's campaigns). She was a dedicated Senator; her peers as well as her constituents praised her dedication, research, in depth knowledge.

The Benghazi mess should be as much on her shoulders as anyone's. She managed to get out of that and then exited the position. It doesn't look good. Maybe no one will care - folks sure didn't care about Obama's lack of experience and he won two elections - so maybe no one cares about her decision-making ability, her methodologies, etc.

I have my doubts that she will even run but who knows. The Clintons are a power couple and the power is what gives their lives a mission. Bill is one of the best campaigners this country has seen; he is as charming and engaging as she is cool and stilted. So who knows . . . I just wonder if they both are not ready to sit home and watch from afar. They came into the White House with relatively modest financial holdings . . . they are together as well as separately millionaires now. They don't have to do anything, except that power is what fuels their relationship.

I guess we will just have to wait and see. Could she win? Maybe! Especially if folks go to the polls just voting for party, as they did with Obama.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Benghazi counts.

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Oh goody, another thread wherein conservatives show themselves to be complete misogynists who value a woman only for her looks, despise smart women, and take every opportunity to say vile things about Hillary's appearance and age because, you know, that's what counts.

Can't wait for the "See how pretty conservative women are and how ugly liberal women are" graphic that shows up on all these threads.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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Haters gonna hate, no matter. Did it ever occur to you that you might be the one who is a bigot and racist? One can have a differing perspective, viewpoints, without being your enemy. But, somehow, I think you need that.
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If she runs she wins, no matter what the bigots say and do.
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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Haters gonna hate, no matter. Did it ever occur to you that you might be the one who is a bigot and racist? One can have a differing perspective, viewpoints, without being your enemy. But, somehow, I think you need that.
I am still lost on why he referred to anyone who wouldn't vote for Hillary as a bigot. HUH?
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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I put both together plus look at history and human nature. I have found that the Liberal party that gives away all the freebies just creates a very dependent citizenry that lose all drive for personal responsibility that very often turns to crime for generation after generation.

I have found that the Conservative party believes in:

1. Private enterprise which creates the jobs and economic independence for both business and employees, thus their families and children.
2. No. 1 also creates self-responsibility which creates strong individuals who create the families that make our nation strong and affords opportunity for all to succeed. If one doesn't succeed, then the majority of those have no one to blame but themselves and are destroyed with government propping up.
3. Shrink federal government back to getting involved in only what our Constitution allows.
4. All the rest of societies problems (you define same as "social" programs) and responsibilities are within the authority of State, County and Local areas...NOT the federal government.

That's for starters!
My post 67 was not meant to start and endless debate on the merits of one political ideology over the other but was meant in general terms to point out that appearance of a candidate is a rather vacuous way of choosing a person to represent ones political ideals.
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Hillary is a very intelligent woman and a helluva good politician (she ran Bill's campaigns). She was a dedicated Senator; her peers as well as her constituents praised her dedication, research, in depth knowledge.

The Benghazi mess should be as much on her shoulders as anyone's. She managed to get out of that and then exited the position. It doesn't look good. Maybe no one will care - folks sure didn't care about Obama's lack of experience and he won two elections - so maybe no one cares about her decision-making ability, her methodologies, etc.

I have my doubts that she will even run but who knows. The Clintons are a power couple and the power is what gives their lives a mission. Bill is one of the best campaigners this country has seen; he is as charming and engaging as she is cool and stilted. So who knows . . . I just wonder if they both are not ready to sit home and watch from afar. They came into the White House with relatively modest financial holdings . . . they are together as well as separately millionaires now. They don't have to do anything, except that power is what fuels their relationship.

I guess we will just have to wait and see. Could she win? Maybe! Especially if folks go to the polls just voting for party, as they did with Obama.
you say she in a very intelligent woman and a hell of a politician: what are you basing the on? Which of her peers have said how hard she works and how dedicated she was or is? I haven't heard that, but maybe you have inside information? I just don't see it quite the way you do. I would say, she will be a very good candidate and certainly not someone to take for granted, but she also has proven she doesn't always handle stress. How about the meltdowns she had when running before? I think they cost her a lot of votes, possibly the nomination.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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It's gonna be crazy the amount of sexism and misogyny the right is gonna ramp up when hilary runs

It's like when the racism got taken to another level when barrack came to the season
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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It's gonna be crazy the amount of sexism and misogyny the right is gonna ramp up when hilary runs

It's like when the racism got taken to another level when barrack came to the season
So sorry you cannot or have not actually studied Hillary's history. I have! She is not fit for politics at all, let alone President. Has nothing to do with "sexism and misogyny." Has to do with her "socialistic leaning toward communistic" history since her "hippy" days which started her in this path and she has stayed there, her history of Rose Law Firm work in the Caribbian, her involvement in "funny stuff" (being nice here) in Arkansas, her very horrible work as Secretary of State showing she has no concept of right and wrong or the ability to make decisions for America and American people...just herself. Wow. That's just a start. Please do check out the history of this woman. From what you have posted I don't believe you have ever checked it out.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It's gonna be crazy the amount of sexism and misogyny the right is gonna ramp up when hilary runs

It's like when the racism got taken to another level when barrack came to the season
Oh for heaven's sake: sure there was some when Obama ran and yes, there will be some when Hillary runs, but not to the extent you would like to think. Sounds to me like, you are the one that is looking for bigotry. Oh and do you mean Hillary or Hillary and Obama or obama? I doubt you will see much sexism, considering Palin was on the ticket 8 years ago. Most of us with open minds want the best candidate represent our country, regardless of gender or anything else.. For many of us, Hillary is not that person.
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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Oh for heaven's sake: sure there was some when Obama ran and yes, there will be some when Hillary runs, but not to the extent you would like to think. Sounds to me like, you are the one that is looking for bigotry. Oh and do you mean Hillary or Hillary and Obama or obama? I doubt you will see much sexism, considering Palin was on the ticket 8 years ago. Most of us with open minds want the best candidate represent our country, regardless of gender or anything else.. For many of us, Hillary is not that person.
Well said. Hillery would be equal to the disaster that BO is, just in different areas but the same me/me/me, socialistic/communistic, narcissistic agenda/beliefs and attitudes with the undeserving ego attached.
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