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Old 06-30-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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That was in 2009. Ron Paul's iteration of the Tea Party started in 2007.
A Ron Paul moneybomb fundraiser commemorating the Boston Tea Party does not the TEA Party make.

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On Nov. 5, supporters of Ron Paul raked in more than $4.2 million in donations in 24 hours, mostly of them collected over the Internet.

Today, they're at it again. Hoping to detonate what they call a "money bomb," the supporters started fundraising at midnight Saturday and have already raised $2 million as of about 10:30 a.m. today, more than at this point on Nov. 5, according to figures they posted online. They hope to collect a total of $10 million by midnight Sunday.

Last time, they tied their fundraising to Guy Fawkes Day, which commemorates a British mercenary who tried unsuccessfully to kill King James I on Nov. 5, 1605. This time, they're seizing on the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party and converging on this snowy city to rally.
Ron Paul raises millions in today's Boston Tea Party event - The Boston Globe

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Uh, huh. What does that have to do with the far right agenda on social issues and voter IDs...
You are aware that IDs are required to apply for public assistance, no? Why aren't Blacks railing against that requirement?
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I, too, could post videos and pictures of the really abhorrent racism at Tea Party rallies
Not verified. We all know there have been leftist propaganda plants at TEA Party events. For example:

LiveLeak.com - Leftist Infiltrator is Driven From Tea Party in St Louis

Ask yourself again... Under Obama's and Reid's Dem leadership, which racial group is sliding into poverty the fastest?

You've been duped.

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Old 06-30-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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A Ron Paul moneybomb fundraiser commemorating the Boston Tea Party does not the TEA Party make.

Ron Paul raises millions in today's Boston Tea Party event - The Boston Globe
LOL. You denigrate Paul for raising money off his Tea Party idea? At least this article proves that the idea was his first, only to be later usurped by the far rightwing conservatives to push their dark ages social agenda.

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You are aware that IDs are required to apply for public assistance, no? Why aren't Blacks railing against that requirement?
You undermine your own argument with this point, and I bet you can't even figure out why.

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Not verified.
Only because you refuse to look.

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We all know there have been leftists propaganda plants at TEA Party events.
Sure, they're all plants. The fact remains that blacks do not feel welcomed in the Tea Party. There are reasons why this is so, all of your deflecting to Obama and Harry Reid notwithstanding.

Ask yourself the question, why? You refuse to do that because the answer is obvious. To everyone but you, apparently.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:42 AM
 
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LOL. You denigrate Paul for raising money off his Tea Party idea?
No, I'm just saying that his Boston Tea Party day fundraiser has nothing to do with the formation of the TEA Party. They're not related at all.

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You undermine your own argument with this point, and I bet you can't even figure out why.
If IDs are required to apply for public assistance, why should they not be required to vote? What makes access to public assistance more sacred than the right to vote?

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The fact remains that blacks do not feel welcomed in the Tea Party.
Absolutely false, and I've shown multiple examples of TEA Party endorsed Black candidates.

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Ask yourself the question, why? You refuse to do that because the answer is obvious. To everyone but you, apparently.
I know the answer. Blacks are being used by the Democrats for votes. Black unemployment is higher under Obama's and Reid's leadership. The White/Black wealth gap has increased under Obama's and Reid's leadership. The Black/White income gap has increased under Obama's and Reid's leadership. Blacks are slipping into poverty faster than any other racial group under Obama's and Reid's leadership.

What will it take for you to get it?
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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If IDs are required to apply for public assistance, why should they not be required to vote? What makes access to public assistance more sacred than the right to vote?
Yep, you didn't get my point, but I'm not surprised.

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Absolutely false, and I've shown multiple examples of TEA Party endorsed Black candidates.
You showed one, Bill Marcy. I can think of maybe two or three others. How that turned into "multiple examples" is a testament to how deluded you are.

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I know the answer. Blacks are being used by the Democrats for votes. Black unemployment is higher under Obama's and Reid's leadership. The White/Black wealth gap has increased under Obama's and Reid's leadership. The Black/White income gap has increased under Obama's and Reid's leadership. Blacks are slipping into poverty faster than any other racial group under Obama's and Reid's leadership.
And again, all you can do is return again and again to a diatribe against Obama/Reid, instead of admitting that the Tea Party has done absolutely zero outreach to the black community. Zero. They have never shown the slightest bit of interest in black voters before last Tuesday. In fact, their rallies have shown exactly how little they care about black voters.

You continue to refuse to admit this. The delusion is all yours. Carry on. You're fooling no one but yourself.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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The delusion is all yours.
Not at all... Black unemployment is higher under Obama's and Reid's leadership. The White/Black wealth gap has increased under Obama's and Reid's leadership. The Black/White income gap has increased under Obama's and Reid's leadership. Blacks are slipping into poverty faster than any other racial group under Obama's and Reid's leadership.

What will it take for you to get it?
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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Not at all... Black unemployment is higher under Obama's and Reid's leadership. The White/Black wealth gap has increased under Obama's and Reid's leadership. The Black/White income gap has increased under Obama's and Reid's leadership. Blacks are slipping into poverty faster than any other racial group under Obama's and Reid's leadership.

What will it take for you to get it?
Blacks don't feel welcomed in the Tea Party. What will it take for you to get it? Because that's really all that matters in this argument. They don't feel welcomed; in fact, they feel the exact opposite of welcomed. Nothing you have said refutes that fact.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:21 AM
 
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Blacks don't feel welcomed in the Tea Party.
Why? Do they feel they're not paying enough taxes? Taxed Enough Already Party.

Would they rather embrace the higher Black unemployment rate, the wider White/Black wealth gap, the higher White/black income gap, and the faster decline of Blacks into poverty than any other race they have now under under Dem leadership?

Looks to me like they're acting against their own best interest...

You reap what you sow.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Why? Do they feel they're not paying enough taxes? Taxed Enough Already Party.

Would they rather embrace the higher Black unemployment rate, the wider White/Black wealth gap, the higher White/black income gap, and the faster decline of Blacks into poverty than any other race they have now under under Dem leadership?

Looks to me like they're acting against their own best interest...

You reap what you sow.
Their best interests certainly don't lie with a party that demonizes them at every turn.

There is only one thing you are right about, and that is that you reap as you sow, something the Tea Party is starting to learn. They alienated blacks and McDaniel lost because of it. Those are the facts, and they are undisputed.

The Tea Party is only beginning its bitter harvest, and they deserve every loss that's coming their way. And if after all of this you still don't know get that, then further discussion with you is pointless.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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Their best interests certainly don't lie with a party that demonizes them at every turn.
That makes no sense. They have minority candidates. How does that demonize anyone?

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There is only one thing you are right about, and that is that you reap as you sow
Exactly. Hope Blacks enjoy their higher unemployment rate, wider White/Black wealth gap, higher White/black income gap, and faster decline of Blacks into poverty than any other race they have now under Dem leadership.

You reap what you sow.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:58 AM
 
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Their best interests certainly don't lie with a party that demonizes them at every turn.

There is only one thing you are right about, and that is that you reap as you sow, something the Tea Party is starting to learn. They alienated blacks and McDaniel lost because of it. Those are the facts, and they are undisputed.

The Tea Party is only beginning its bitter harvest, and they deserve every loss that's coming their way. And if after all of this you still don't know get that, then further discussion with you is pointless.
Those blacks that voted for Cochran were NOT going to do so unless they were race hustled like they were. Who are the REAL racists now? I'd say the blacks who got up and voted illegally because they were told about the evil white man coming to take their rights away.
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