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Old 02-14-2015, 05:29 AM
 
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How this is going to play out is more predictable than an episode of Scooby Doo. Hillary will win the nomination for the Democrats. Jeb will win for the Republicans. The Republicans won't be able to craft a new or compelling anti-Hillary narrative. They will try and try to reveal something shocking and new, but anything they could have said about her has already been said. There's not a Republican in America who will vote for her, but she'll get the rank-and-file and some independents (both those who want to see a woman in the White House just because and those who truly vote for who they think could best do the job .. the woman, after all, is a professional).

Democrats won't have the same problem of coming up with an unexpected anti-Jeb narrative. They'll have a lot of options when it comes to tarnishing Jeb's image, particularly because Jeb is going to have a pretty easy time getting the nomination (my opinion). I have no idea what the dirt will be, and for the record Jeb seems ok to me, but everyone has some and his will surely will be found. Jeb will get all of the rank-and-file and most of loonies (The very thing that will count against him at first will actually come in handy in the end ... his last name. If I've learned anything about the extreme Right over the years it's that they're extremely juvenile. The thought of angry liberals cursing a Bush victory will be enough red meat for them to get behind Jeb, even with his supposed negatives.) If Jeb is who I think he is (a non idiot who is actually competent), he'll get some independents too, but I don't think he'll get enough to win.

Get used to saying President Clinton again folks.
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Old 02-14-2015, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Be prepared to rehash terry schiavo. Jeb did not come out of that looking "competent".
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Old 02-14-2015, 10:01 AM
 
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Old 02-14-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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How this is going to play out is more predictable than an episode of Scooby Doo. Hillary will win the nomination for the Democrats. Jeb will win for the Republicans. The Republicans won't be able to craft a new or compelling anti-Hillary narrative. They will try and try to reveal something shocking and new, but anything they could have said about her has already been said. There's not a Republican in America who will vote for her, but she'll get the rank-and-file and some independents (both those who want to see a woman in the White House just because and those who truly vote for who they think could best do the job .. the woman, after all, is a professional).

Democrats won't have the same problem of coming up with an unexpected anti-Jeb narrative. They'll have a lot of options when it comes to tarnishing Jeb's image, particularly because Jeb is going to have a pretty easy time getting the nomination (my opinion). I have no idea what the dirt will be, and for the record Jeb seems ok to me, but everyone has some and his will surely will be found. Jeb will get all of the rank-and-file and most of loonies (The very thing that will count against him at first will actually come in handy in the end ... his last name. If I've learned anything about the extreme Right over the years it's that they're extremely juvenile. The thought of angry liberals cursing a Bush victory will be enough red meat for them to get behind Jeb, even with his supposed negatives.) If Jeb is who I think he is (a non idiot who is actually competent), he'll get some independents too, but I don't think he'll get enough to win.

Get used to saying President Clinton again folks.
It is not looking good for Republicans in 2016. It does work, too. Look at the 2012 circus freak show on the GOP side. Everyone that the liberal media attacked, the Republicans rallied behind. Democrats need to focus on economic issues in 2016, and drop the social issues. The courts are already taking care of LGBT issues, there's no need for lip service to them. Obama did that in his campaigns, and he was a very smart man to do so. I think the 2014 Midterms will be short lived, especially when the rest of the voters turn out next year.
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Old 02-14-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Of coarse republicans will lose if they let the media and the establishment put Bush as their leader.

The Bush name is TOXIC.


The big push to project Mitt & Bish as the front runners, didn't gain any traction what so ever, falling flat on its face.

Rand still holds a commanding lead over all other Republicans, because he also has the Conservative side of the party too. Something Bush will never gain.
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Old 02-14-2015, 04:55 PM
 
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The Bush name is TOXIC.


The Bush name IS toxic.

What's pathetic is that the Clinton name is not. Hillary is a sad excuse for a leader, a pathetic, overfed pig of a bureaucrat.

The Clinton's are the cancer that is destroying this country -- career politicians.
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The Bush name IS toxic.

What's pathetic is that the Clinton name is not. Hillary is a sad excuse for a leader, a pathetic, overfed pig of a bureaucrat.

The Clinton's are the cancer that is destroying this country -- career politicians.
Politicians only gain careers by being re-elected. Since incumbents always outnumber newbies, Americans like their professionals. If it was otherwise, we wouldn't see so many in Congress or in the state legislatures all over the nation, or in the counties, or in the cities.

Why isn't the Clinton name toxic? Because Clinton left a whopping surplus in the Treasury behind him when he left, and everyone remembers the 90s as being good times throughout the nation.

For sure, calling Hillary all the names you can come up with won't change a single mind in the voting booth.
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:08 AM
 
Location: NJ
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OP, Good post.
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Democrats will most certainly anoint Hillary if she runs, but Jeb Bush will not get the same privilege on the GOP side. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't have a finger on the GOP base. Jeb Bush is Romney 2.0 . He wins the nomination only if the rest of the field self-implodes.

2016 will be an anointing for the Dems, and a scrum for the GOP. The latter process will produce the better candidate.
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:33 AM
 
Location: NJ
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wutitiz"He wins the nomination only if the rest of the field self-implodes. "

Given that field, it will implode.
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