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Old 01-09-2008, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes + some
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No marriage does not make 2 people one, but this one does. Their whole careers have been spent toward this goal, otherwise there is no way her independent personality would have withstood his philanderings over and over and over. They lost their souls a long time ago and along with it, my respect.
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:29 PM
 
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No marriage does not make 2 people one, but this one does. Their whole careers have been spent toward this goal, otherwise there is no way her independent personality would have withstood his philanderings over and over and over. They lost their souls a long time ago and along with it, my respect.
Is it so bad to have ambition to be President? How many politician's wives are locked in marriage "for the good of their husbands?" How many gay Republicans need to stay married to prove their not gay?

If she's running simply because she wants POWER, THAT is where you lose respect. If she believes she can and will make a difference as leader, it is not dishonorable to work through your marriage problems (isn't that what you're SUPPOSED to do when you take marriage vows, anyway?) Because maybe she thinks she'd actually do the best job.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes + some
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I'm sure she does.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I have a question:

How would Hillary Clinton gain the respect of other national leaders like Putin, Hu Jintao, Chavez, etc. by crying like a little girl?
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Eagan, Minnesota
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Hillary never answered the question about giving driver licenses to illegals. Apparently, she thinks it is a good idea but she does not agree with it . I guess, it was just a "gotcha" question as she stated.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:56 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I have a question:

How would Hillary Clinton gain the respect of other national leaders like Putin, Hu Jintao, Chavez, etc. by crying like a little girl?

How? I'm guessing with a little intelligent dialogue she'd probably gain respect more effectively than with the blather, bluster, and arrogance currently being employed.
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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How? I'm guessing with a little intelligent dialogue she'd probably gain respect more effectively than the blather, bluster, and arrogance currently being employed has done.
And rather than answer a very well-phrased question by a prospective New Hampshire voter, Clinton abandoned intelligent dialogue and instead played on the tired old female stereotype of being a damsel in distress. And it worked.

But it's only going to work once. In the meantime, she's provided yet more evidence of her calculating, manipulating and caniving tendencies.
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:07 AM
 
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I have a question:

How would Hillary Clinton gain the respect of other national leaders like Putin, Hu Jintao, Chavez, etc. by crying like a little girl?
What makes you think she'll "cry like a girl" in the face of world leaders the same way she did crying about personal issues?

Will Romney cry everytime he sends someone to war, thinking that it's one of his boys coming home in a coffin?

Blatant sexism on display here, and I NEVER play with "ism" decks of cards!
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:51 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Interesting that Tom Brokaw doesn't seem to believe that Hillary's tears were a ploy and I'm going to go out on a limb and guess he's had far more opportunity to personally observe her than most posters in this forum.


It's truly amazing how many seem to believe themselves capable of knowing exactly what someone else is thinking and feeling. I wish I had that capability, poker would be providing a comfortable living
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What makes you think she'll "cry like a girl" in the face of world leaders the same way she did crying about personal issues?

Will Romney cry everytime he sends someone to war, thinking that it's one of his boys coming home in a coffin?

Blatant sexism on display here, and I NEVER play with "ism" decks of cards!

As a man I have no doubt that anyone who underestimates the emotional strength/resolve of women is making a huge mistake.
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