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Old 07-03-2015, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I'd love to audit his companies to see how many illegals are on his payrolls. INS should do a few raids, a-la- IRS vs GOP members, to see if he's just making statements while himself having feet of clay.

Illegals exist because you desire them. Stop hiring them and they'll stop coming.
If memory serves, there was a big bru ha- ha back in the late 80's- early 90's involving hundreds of undocumented workers engaged in the building of Trump Tower , in NYC. First he claimed no knowledge because he outsourced to sub contractors. Then he blamed the unions for a witch hunt.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Criminal apologists would be those Americans who hire these people or otherwise live off of the avails they make from their backs. That pretty much describes MOST of you.

I wouldn't have tolerated it for decades with multiple amnesties awarded them, driver's licenses issued, anchor baby citizenship and a host of other stuff to entice them to keep coming....some of which put there by the two-faced GOP.

No problem securing the northern border (that idiots like McCain stated was the real problem) and it's double the length of the border with Mexico with four times the wilderness area. Howcum?

Methinks you and Trump resort to the theatrical talking heads nonsense to illustrate a point while ignoring the truth of the matter. YOU stop hiring them or otherwise living off of their avails and they will stop coming. Simple no?
You nailed it , my friend. No fence/ wall is high enough. No troops deep enough so long as undocumented workers can obtain employment. It really is this simple.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Most Americans do not desire them. Where are you getting this? Most Americans don't hire them either. The GOP House just introduced a bill to mandate e-verify in every workplace (without the amnesty nonsense included in it like the Senate bill did awhile back). Think the Democrats will vote for it? You know the answer to that one.
So, republicans are trying to force all states into a singular, federal law? That might be a point of contention. As of now, Federal Government implements E-Verify as a requirement within Federal limits, leaving states to decide on their own. President Obama signed expansion of E-Verify to include Contractors who sign up with Federal government. In fact, E-verify is a requirement in both, ACA and ARRA (Recovery Act, 2009).
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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What does living off their avails mean?

Mexico is a dump of a country, a complete failure. And who is to blame but Mexicans for that?

Americans have never wanted all the immigration we've gotten, legal or otherwise. But our government has failed us in enforcing the law. Both political parties are responsible.

Trump is right. We do not need criminals and losers in this country. Even less do we need the Americans who defend them.
The country was built on the backs of slaves and cheap immigrant labor, legal and otherwise.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:28 PM
 
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The country was built on the backs of slaves and cheap immigrant labor, legal and otherwise.
And your point is what, exactly? Are you intending to compare today's legal and illegal immigration to what happened over 100 years ago?
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Not a fan of Trumps - But What he said was true. People just hate the truth..
This is true. I'm not a fan either. He is an egomaniac. But, what he said is true.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The country was built on the backs of slaves and cheap immigrant labor, legal and otherwise.
Not really. Millions of non slaves and non cheap immigrant people helped build this country. Millions.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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If memory serves, there was a big bru ha- ha back in the late 80's- early 90's involving hundreds of undocumented workers engaged in the building of Trump Tower , in NYC. First he claimed no knowledge because he outsourced to sub contractors. Then he blamed the unions for a witch hunt.
How are the subcontractors and unions not to blame? And if Trump would've made sure beforehand no illegal Hispanics were employed in the construction, progressive would've still said, "bigoted!". You just can't say or do anything against illegals and mexico's policies without ,progressives labeling you.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:59 PM
 
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Not really. Millions of non slaves and non cheap immigrant people helped build this country. Millions.
Middle-aged mom is revising history. America was always historically 85%-90% white, ~100% white minus blacks. All whites came legally, up to over 50% of whites (not just Irish but from all over Europe) came as indentured servants. Most whites the vast majority however were not immigrants but the native born children in the colonies. Nonwhites do not own building this country or being poor workers or slaves. Whites advanced most science and discovery. America was built for and by whites and it's being stolen from them by progressives.

Progressives do not get to rewrite American and white history.
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Old 07-03-2015, 05:03 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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How are the subcontractors and unions not to blame? And if Trump would've made sure beforehand no illegal Hispanics were employed in the construction, progressive would've still said, "bigoted!". You just can't say or do anything against illegals and mexico's policies without ,progressives labeling you.
Unions aren't going to allow their members work for sub-standard wages so how are they to blame? If you mean that unions outed Trump for hiring illegals and paying them $5.00 then I would think you'd thank them. It's employers who provide illegals jobs at sub-standard wages that act like a carrot to bring them to this country. Dry up the jobs, end of the main reason they come here. Trump approved the contracts and prices he paid to sub-contractors, he knew what he was getting. I'll bet half the ground keeps on his golf courses are illegals. Just like his Trump University was bogus and is now under investigation, he can't do anything without cheating and suing.
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