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Old 07-06-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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I guess you agree with Jeb Bush then
on this point, yes.

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You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine.
yep, although we could look into the numbers and find out the estimates for how many people enter the US each year illegally from mexico and the number of crimes committed by illegals but..... we'd still have a difference of opinion on the implication of "some".

( *: i had deleted my original post before i knew anyone had replied because i don't have the time today to thoroughly research those numbers ).
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Old 07-06-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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on this point, yes.



yep, although we could look into the numbers and find out the estimates for how many people enter the US each year illegally from mexico and the number of crimes committed by illegals but..... we'd still have a difference of opinion on the implication of "some".

( *: i had deleted my original post before i knew anyone had replied because i don't have the time today to thoroughly research those numbers ).
I think there should be an honest discussion about illegal immigrants. People shouldn't be labeled as racist if they are against illegals immigrants (not saying you do the labeling here)

I agree that Mexicans seem to be singled out a lot, that is why I am against all illegals from all countries.

When you do a google search, you would find the media is feeding us all these informations

illegals are good for the economy
Illegals are creating jobs for local workers
illegals are helping social security

I recommend every single one of you to do your own research. Talking to an economist who is not a political hack. You would find out that in the long run, illegal immigration brings very minor (if any) economic benefits and very high social costs.

They (the illegals) merely inflate the size of the economy and create a bubble, increasing total GDP but not GDP per capita. And in the long-term this creates enormous problems; as well as the cost of building the necessary infrastructure for an increased population, such as primary schools, roads, houses and prisons, there are the social problems attached both to the native long-term unemployed and to the children of immigrants.


I am for elite, skilled legal immigration. I am against mass uncontrolled immigration from third world country and illegals.
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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He. Didn't. Make. It. Clear. That. He. Was. Talking. About. Illegals. That. Is. Outrageous. He also insulted Mexico with his claim that they purposely organize dumps of all their problem people.
Mexico has never insulted the US
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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I agree that Mexicans seem to be singled out a lot ...

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I am for elite, skilled legal immigration.
They make up over 28 percent of all legal immigrants coming, and over
52 percent of all illegals coming to America.

I don't know if you would be for elite, skilled legal immigration if you were a graduating
engineer from America...
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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They make up over 28 percent of all legal immigrants coming, and over
52 percent of all illegals coming to America.

I don't know if you would be for elite, skilled legal immigration if you were a graduating
engineer from America...
well, that is true too. h1B is not a success.
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Old 07-06-2015, 12:42 PM
 
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WOW, just WOW. I would expect something this low to come from a liberal.

Stay classy Donald!!!! If Trump keeps going down that path he will be as popular as the plague.

https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/don...123151376.html
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Old 07-06-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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They make up over 28 percent of all legal immigrants coming, and over
52 percent of all illegals coming to America.

I don't know if you would be for elite, skilled legal immigration if you were a graduating
engineer from America...
I'm against any more mass legal immigration too whether elite, skilled even from Asia, Europe or anywhere. Enough is enough. All we're getting is mostly people from incompatible cultures, and demographics changing and ethnic cleansing immigration. Immigration should've never been allowed to be altered to change the historical demographics.
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Old 07-06-2015, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I'm against any more mass legal immigration too whether elite, skilled even from Asia, Europe or anywhere. Enough is enough. All we're getting is mostly people from incompatible cultures, and demographics changing and ethnic cleansing immigration. Immigration should've never been allowed to be altered to change the historical demographics.
If I didn't know better I'd call that statement "White Supremacist Trolling". Straight out of the stormfront handbook.

FYI: The Historical demographic of the continent was made up of Redmen to the north. What we call Native Americans today and Brownmen to the South. What today is known as Mexicans. Mexicans owned everything from the east Texas border to the Pacific ocean until the White man came and stole it with a gun to their heads.

Wait a minute..........I'll bet a dollar to a donut that your history only goes back as far as when your ancestors were immigrants to the country. I think I understand now.
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Old 07-06-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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WOW, just WOW. I would expect something this low to come from a liberal.

Stay classy Donald!!!! If Trump keeps going down that path he will be as popular as the plague.

https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/don...123151376.html
Only someone else's tweet was quoted not Trump's. You realize Trump most likely doesn't personally man his twitter?

Besides, when have politics always stayed classy? And what is so bad about pointing out that Jeb Bush being married to a Hispanic could indicate being biased or influenced in favor of illegal immigration by his wife?
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Old 07-06-2015, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Only someone else's tweet was quoted not Trump's. You realize Trump most likely doesn't personally man his twitter?

Besides, when have politics always stayed classy? And what is so bad about pointing out that Jeb Bush being married to a Hispanic could indicate being biased or influenced in favor of illegal immigration by his wife?
Hey! go for it.

Standard procedure for right wing conservatives to make vague suppositions based on innuendo and falsehoods against their political opponents.
P&OC is a perfect example. I've seen 9 pages of downright lies and untruths foisted on us by the likes of you and your compadres of like mind and by the 10th page, you were using the lie you told on page one as source material for lies on page 10.
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