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Old 07-30-2015, 06:40 PM
 
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Have you noticed how nobody is actually slinging any mud yet...
This is because the politicians are afraid of Trump spending the money to dig
Up the dirt these worms are crawling in. Trump can't be bought and another thing is that Trump is soo not a polotician and that's what Americans need for once. A straight talker shooting from the hip
The truly mind boggling amount of money about to be spent will dig dirt like a crazed mole. And Trump will be involved in his share of it. He has started the mud slinging, its going to be a nasty nasty fight.
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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Yeah. And Trump is pure entertainment. He's the biggest clown in the clown car at the moment. The sheer dislike that most Republicans have for him will doom him, while hyper-right wing folks love him.

Theres so many in the race its hard to call at the moment on the R side. Maybe Walker? Dunno.

Nate Silver has a good review of Mr. Trump here:

Donald Trump Is The Nickelback Of GOP Candidates | FiveThirtyEight
But one thing is likely sure thing. If the left nominates Bernie sanders, the GOP will win.
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:14 PM
 
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And Sanders has shown a pretty decent chance of beating every Republican......and is currently losing vs Clinton.

Im not sure Trump is going to win the primary, he has a committed group that like him, but the majority don't like him. If everyone was staying in til the bitter end....Trump would win, but as people drop out, the people supporting them aren't going to migrate to Trump. His one chance is to do amazingly well in the debates I think.
Bernie sanders is not acceptable to the chamber of commerce and Silicon Valley. He is an outspoken socialist who will not win the nomination. Hilary Clinton is the mainstream establishment candidate who appeals across ethnic lines. Bernie sanders represent white liberals and white lgbt and it's awkward in front of people of color.
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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A St. Pete Polls survey has Trump in first place in the Republican line-up among FL voters. And a new Quinnipiac Poll out this morning shows Trump’s lead growing nationally.

Hillary's numbers are in decline.

Trump surges in new poll while Hillary sinks | New York Post
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
Neither will be a serious contender, so these polls are good only for entertainment.
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:19 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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He is a buffoon who speaks in generalities, spews hateful words, and is not qualified to lead this country.
Yeah, but then again you can say all of these things about Obama.
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:29 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Oh please. Jail is for the little people, they will never jail her out of fear that it could be their turn next.

The resulting poo storm, and mass jailings as the parties went after each other would make the country a better place though.
This e-mail scandal is not going away anytime soon:

{Revelations about the emails have put Clinton in the crosshairs of a broadening inquiry into whether she or her aides mishandled classified information when she used a private server set up at her New York home to conduct official State Department business.:

Read more here: Data in Clinton

It may not put her in jail: It ought to disqualify her from office.


In the end, though, her main problem is she simply isn't likable and a 67 year old while woman political insider is unlikely to turn out the youth and minority vote that helped elect Obama.
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Traditionally yeah. This is shaping up to be a historical election cycle. People are really tuned in and paying attention early.
I think you are giving the American people too much credit....
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's summer with 16 months to go, reading anything into polls at this point is premature to say the least.
Exactly, all it is good for is some bantering back and forth of political forum sites.
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:52 PM
 
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In the end, though, her main problem is she simply isn't likable and a 67 year old while woman political insider is unlikely to turn out the youth and minority vote that helped elect Obama.
Young adults and minorities are not known for voting in large numbers. Most of them just don't care, to be frank.
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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A St. Pete Polls survey has Trump in first place in the Republican line-up among FL voters. And a new Quinnipiac Poll out this morning shows Trump’s lead growing nationally.

Hillary's numbers are in decline.

Trump surges in new poll while Hillary sinks | New York Post
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
Trump has a core group of devoted supporters, about 25-30%. But Trump has the highest disapproval rating. So, while 30% will vote for him, 70% won't.
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