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Old 07-01-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I find Hillary to be the most loathsome character in politics in my lifetime. What are her core principles? She'll say one thing to one crowd but another to a different crowd. Now she's this uber liberal who is gung ho about gay marriage, criminal justice reform, immigration etc. Yet not too long ago she sounded like a Republican.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I

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Dems you guys can do better please think about the country.
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Old 07-01-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I find Hillary to be the most loathsome character in politics in my lifetime. What are her core principles? She'll say one thing to one crowd but another to a different crowd. Now she's this uber liberal who is gung ho about gay marriage, criminal justice reform, immigration etc. Yet not too long ago she sounded like a Republican.
I have to ask, how old are you? I'm in my 60s and remember far worse.


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Dems you guys can do better please think about the country.
The same can be said for the GOP, despite the many apparent choices I see none likely to be great boons for the country.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I have to ask, how old are you? I'm in my 60s and remember far worse.




The same can be said for the GOP, despite the many apparent choices I see none likely to be great boons for the country.
I'm 37. My political experience starts with Bush, I didn't vote in 1996.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Almost to FL
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While I like Hillary, as a Dem, I can only support Bernie Sanders. Clinton is too corporate for me.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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Better than anything out there. World savvy, We know and she and Bill are liked worldwide. She knows world leaders and how they think. She is smart and very calculating. She was involved with govt while some of these repub candidates were still kids.

Crooked: NOT! So much taxpayer money wasted trying to bring them down by whining republicans.Even if they were crooks; who do you want dealing with the likes of Putin etc etc. I haven't seen her cowing down to Netanyahu either.
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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It's pretty simple for me - I'll vote for the Dem candidate. I'm fine with Hillary, the Clinton economy between 1992 and 2000 was the best in my memory.

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Old 07-01-2015, 11:41 AM
 
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I'm 37. My political experience starts with Bush, I didn't vote in 1996.
IMO both LBJ and Nixon were far worse than Hillary if for no other reason than their getting and keeping us involved in the Vietnam debacle.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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I don't hate Hillary Clinton, but I am not enamored with her, either. I am leaning towards supporting Bernie Sanders right now. He is saying the things that really need to be said about the situation of our country's working class.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:58 AM
 
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IMO both LBJ and Nixon were far worse than Hillary if for no other reason than their getting and keeping us involved in the Vietnam debacle.

Nixon was lawyer for McCARTHY during the communist witch hunts. LBJ had a great deal with Brown Concrete to build all the docks in Vietnam. You remember LADYBIRD BROWN JOHNSON don't you.
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Old 07-01-2015, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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I find Hillary to be the most loathsome character in politics in my lifetime. What are her core principles? She'll say one thing to one crowd but another to a different crowd. Now she's this uber liberal who is gung ho about gay marriage, criminal justice reform, immigration etc. Yet not too long ago she sounded like a Republican.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxASD4jHgCk

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTatH9qROw4

Dems you guys can do better please think about the country.
If the primaries in California was held today, I'll probably cast my vote for Bernie Sanders. But regardless of who wins the primaries, I'll be voting for a Democrat in the general election. It would take a major incident for me not to cast a vote that way in the general but if something did happen I would vote independent. There's too much at risk to have another Republican in the White House.

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