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Old 01-07-2016, 07:51 PM
 
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How did Hillary destroy these lives?

Frankly, I think the people who hated Clinton did more harm to these women, are are doing more harm to these women, by constantly bringing them up for scrutiny.
The only reason, I mean the ONLY reason I'm here is:

a) Hillary sends a tweet saying ALL abused women deserved to be heard? Are you kidding me?
b) She then goes and calls Trump a sexist while she has her husband (had affair with multiple women while as an official) campaigning for her?
c) Hillary did the opposite thing (run a war room against the women accusing Bill) that she is campaigning for (women's rights)

Note to Hillary lovers, SHE is the one starting this, not anyone else.

And it's all the Clinton hater's fault? Really? Wow, this thread is really quite enlightening and mind blowing... Reading the breath and depth of hypocrisy of Hillary and her supports is like looking at the Grand Canyon. I feel like I've dropped into an alternative universe when I read these threads.
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Old 01-08-2016, 07:44 AM
 
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The only reason, I mean the ONLY reason I'm here is:

a) Hillary sends a tweet saying ALL abused women deserved to be heard? Are you kidding me?
b) She then goes and calls Trump a sexist while she has her husband (had affair with multiple women while as an official) campaigning for her?
c) Hillary did the opposite thing (run a war room against the women accusing Bill) that she is campaigning for (women's rights)

Note to Hillary lovers, SHE is the one starting this, not anyone else.

And it's all the Clinton hater's fault? Really? Wow, this thread is really quite enlightening and mind blowing... Reading the breath and depth of hypocrisy of Hillary and her supports is like looking at the Grand Canyon. I feel like I've dropped into an alternative universe when I read these threads.
SHE is not the one starting this. Trump is.

And ALL abused women do deserve to be heard. Is this something you disagree with? If you agree with that statement, then it doesn't matter who is making the statement.

Trump has made many sexist remarks. Adulterers aren't necessarily sexist.

Clinton haters have done a lot of harm. Obama haters have done a lot of harm. Bush haters have done a lot of harm. When hatred and anger is your driving motivation, then harm and destruction tends to be your objective.
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Old 01-08-2016, 09:09 AM
 
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So let me get this straight. Clinton had an affair while he was president with a (younger) subordinate. When discovered, he denied it and blamed the victim, and destroyed her life. Hillary blames the victims by running a war room on these women. Then when people rightly complain, it's the complainer's fault? Holy mother of whatever I want whatever you're smoking so I can then appreciate Hillary also! OK, Hillary is a wonderful person, sure thing, yeah.
You like to confuse the issue by repeatedly dragging in irrelevancy. Two wrong doesn't make a right. Bill Clinton was wrong but that is irrelevant because that DOES NOT excuse the Republicans. They had every right to complain, but they went way beyond that and ruined a person's reputation in the process. While people like you defend them.

This is where logical thinking fails you. Did Bill Clinton dragged her into the spotlight? Did Bill Clinton use her to take down his own career? Did Bill Clinton write scandalous articles that specifically named her? Bill had an affair, ok fine; blame him for that. But Bill had a vested interest in keeping Monica off the news. Those who dragged her into the mud are right-wingers with support from people like yourself.

Even the victim said that the right-wing media is to blame for her ordeal.

You want to know what I'm smoking? Nothing. But do tell what are you smoking.
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Old 01-08-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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17 years on, conservatives are still trying to get America to care about the Lewinsky scandal. Let me spell it out for you:

N-O-B-O-D-Y C-A-R-ES
Yet you demonstrate that you care by posting in this topic. LOL
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:29 PM
 
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Yet you demonstrate that you care by posting in this topic. LOL

I don't care about Ghiradelli chocolate but when I see the shops handing out samples, I take one.

It's called low hanging fruits.
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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I don't care about Ghiradelli chocolate but when I see the shops handing out samples, I take one.

It's called low hanging fruits.
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This is a logical fallacy. You create a hypothetical situation to address a specific issue.
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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This is a logical fallacy. You create a hypothetical situation to address a specific issue.
That was an analogy. Creating a hypothetical situation to make a point is not a logical fallacy.
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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That was an analogy. Creating a hypothetical situation to make a point is not a logical fallacy.
Nothing that precludes attempt at analogy from being a logical fallacy. In fact, many of them are very bad attempts at such a thing.
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Old 01-08-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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Nothing that precludes an analogy from being a logical fallacy. In fact, many of them are very bad attempts at such a thing.
And regardless of your definition of logical fallacy, that was still an analogy.

Bebop equated threads that are easily challenged with Ghiradelli chocolates that are being given away. He is happy to post challenges in such threads, he is happy to accept free chocolates. The parallel is clear, and he even clarifies the parallel in his comment, "low-hanging fruit".
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Old 01-08-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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. that was still an analogy....."low-hanging fruit".
It's called low hanging fruit because there is no demand for it except by those who "care" enough to take time to pick it off tree. Thank you for analogy.

Burnt.

LOL
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