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Old 01-15-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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The adults have learned that when it comes to war mongering, there is no difference between establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans. Bush, Obama, and congress controlled by either party has proved this.
There is a measure of truth to this, I will grant you that. However, you cannot dismiss the scale or degree this takes place between parties.
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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There is a measure of truth to this, I will grant you that. However, you cannot dismiss the scale or degree this takes place between parties.
There is NO difference between the parties. Bush destroyed Iraq with no valid reason. Obama destroyed Libya and Syria with no valid reason. They both wanted regime change.

Now we have ISIS to show for it and millions of refugees who hate us because of it.
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Actually--I have no problem with those who avoided Vietnam if they could. What I do have a problem with is guys who ducked out, but now are acting like hawks who want to invade countries, initiate wars and bomb the sh*t out of people. Like Cheney, Bush, Trump, Limbaugh.
Trump was never drafted and therefore never had to duck out. Bush served in the military.
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:01 PM
 
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I agree with your statement, but in Trump's case it seems to me that it is all about his ego.


A question, in Trump's 60+ years has he ever served his country (state or city) in any function?


EVERTHING the Donald has done is all about Trump & $$$.


Seems like this is just another move to further the Trump brand and stroke his ego.
Then why is The Donald basically throwing away much of his business ties with his politically incorrect statements? He has been asked before if he regrets it. His response?: "No, I don't care about the money. I don't care about the money; I want to make America great again."

His love of country is far deeper than his love of money. The same can't be said of any other Republican in the race, who accept donations from the Koch brothers.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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I kinda like the right wing worship of their many chickenhawk leaders.


Guys like:


Dick Cheney
Mitch McConnell
Ted Nugent
Mitt Romney
Rush Limbaugh
Bill O'Reilly


And there are plenty more.




Amusing how people make a brave noise throwing around the left's favorite word--chickenhawk-- to describe people who support our military while celebrating those like Clinton and his wife who both famously treated like crap every member of the military they encountered on WH grounds.

Good try.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What a minute, is this video actually real? And has the internet gotten a hold of it to turn it into a meme?
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Not a Trump fan, but he is just as viable a candidate as Sanders. Still waiting to see how Bernie plans to fund free health care, free tuition, student loan debt forgiveness, etc. Aside from his proposed 90% tax rate...
Sanders has forgotten more about the legislative process than the Apprentice Guy will ever know. Disagree with his positions all you want, when in comes to viability as a presidential candidate, he's a different stratospheres from Trump.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:36 PM
 
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I was willing to live and let live with Trump's deferment; I'm a couple of years younger than him and remember all too well the Vietnam and draft travesty.
Then Trump released that ridiculous letter from his so-called doctor that said he is and always has been the healthiest physical specimen to ever grace the globe. It specifically states that he has never had any orthopedic surgery. Trump can't have it both ways: either he dodged the draft or his health is and has been less perfect than he claims.

(fwiw, by appearances he's the least healthy of all the presidential wannabes. He's obese and his skin is florid and mottled. But that's a topic for another thread.)
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Old 01-16-2016, 12:27 AM
 
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What a minute, is this video actually real? And has the internet gotten a hold of it to turn it into a meme?
Yes. It's real. The group was put together by the father of one of the girls.
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Old 01-16-2016, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yes. It's real. The group was put together by the father of one of the girls.
That was a really bizarre song.....
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