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Old 02-14-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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They are hoping for a brokered convention to stop Trump in getting the nomination.

But Trump can run the tables and get the delegates he needs before the convention:

1,237 needed for nomination: these states are winner takes all delegates:


1) South Carolina 50 delegates
2) Florida 99 delegates
3) Illinois 69 delegates
4) Ohio 66 delegates
5) Arizona 58 delegates
6) Wisconsin 42 delegates
7) Delaware 16 delegates
8) Maryland 38 delegates
9) Pennsylvania 71 delegates
10) Indiana 57 delegates
11) Nebraska 36 delegates
12) California 172 delegates
13) Montana 27 delegates
14) New Jersey 51 delegates
15) South Dakota 29 delegates


total: 854 delegates


IF Trumps gets 50% of the votes in New York he gets all 95 DELEGATES, he should that's his state and I doubt Cruz will get any traction in N.Y.......that's 949 delegates .....short of 288 delegates to win the nomination but he can get that easily in the rest of the 34 states and U.S. territories by proportional votes by just getting 30% of the votes or better.


I don't know how are they going to stop Trump but that's what they are hoping a brokered convention.....the people that design the primaries in both parties designed it to avoid a brokered convention. Republican party with winner takes all primaries....and the Democrat Party with Super Delegates.

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Old 02-14-2016, 03:09 PM
 
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Trump isn't my first choice, but whoever wins the most in the primaries should be the nominee. I hate Bernie Sanders and disagree with him the most on the issues, but it was very unfair that he won New Hampshire's voters by a large margin but Hillary still ended up actually winning more delegates because of the superdelegates.

There should be no brokered convention, that will outrage the base and get many voters to stay home and would be an affront to democracy. If Trump wins the primaries, he should be the nominee.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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They are hoping for a brokered convention to stop Trump in getting the nomination.
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Good post. I think originally the GOP would have loved a brokered convention, but with Scalia gone I don't think it's going to happen. This election cycle is going to be an epic battle and the GOP has to stay on target and focused. Personally I think his death will hurt Trump as the electorate gets more focused.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 03:19 PM
 
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like I said the people that designed the primaries in both parties made it to avoid a brokered convention. Republicans with winner takes all delegates primaries in huge states and the Democrats with Super Delegates.

if Trump holds his polls numbers he should get to 1,237 or more before the convention.


You have 854 delegates delegates in states in winner takes all...Trump can win those states by 1% or 20%, it doesn't matter he takes them all if he wins those states.....New York if he gets 50% he gets all 95 delegates......then all he has to get is 30% of the votes in the rest of the states that are proportional.


the only way to stop Trump is defeating him in the states that are winner takes all:


1) South Carolina 50 delegates
2) Florida 99 delegates
3) Illinois 69 delegates
4) Ohio 66 delegates
5) Arizona 58 delegates
6) Wisconsin 42 delegates
7) Delaware 16 delegates
8) Maryland 38 delegates
9) Pennsylvania 71 delegates
10) Indiana 57 delegates
11) Nebraska 36 delegates
12) California 172 delegates
13) Montana 27 delegates
14) New Jersey 51 delegates
15) South Dakota 29 delegates



if they can't beat Trump in those states, its over......all he has to do is get 30% in the rest of the states.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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I didn't think South Carolina was winner take all, because a primary had to fall sometime after a date in March for that to take place. I knew that Florida and Ohio were winner take all, but not some of the others.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 04:38 PM
 
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I didn't think South Carolina was winner take all, because a primary had to fall sometime after a date in March for that to take place. I knew that Florida and Ohio were winner take all, but not some of the others.
Unique rules for SC.

It's winner take most.

Winner of primary gets 29 at large delegates.

The remaining 21 delegates are tied to the 7 congressional districts. 3/district. Candidate with the most votes in each of those districts gets the 3 delegates.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 06:45 PM
 
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South Carolina: Delegates awarded as “winner take all” statewide and by congressional district.


2016 Republican Nomination Calendar Released for Primaries




  • Florida Primary (99) — Winner take all
  • Illinois Primary (69) — Statewide delegates are winner take all, congressional district delegates elected directly on ballot and bound as they declare
  • Northern Mariana Islands Caucuses (9) – Winner take all
  • Ohio Primary (66) –Winner take all
  • U.S. Virgin Islands (9) — Winner take all
  • Arizona Primary (58) — Winner take all
  • Wisconsin Primary (42) — Winner take all statewide and by congressional district
  • Delaware Primary (16) — Winner take all
  • Maryland Primary (38) — Winner take all
    Pennsylvania Primary (71/14) — Winner take all statewide, remaining delegates elected on ballot and unbound
  • Indiana Primary (57/54) — Winner take all statewide and by congressional district
  • Nebraska Primary (36) — Winner take all
  • California Primary (172/169) — Winner take all statewide and by congressional district
  • Montana Primary (27) — Winner take all
  • New Jersey Primary (51) — Winner take all
  • South Dakota Primary (29/26) — Winner take all


New York is Trump's home state: Proportional with 50% winner-take-all threshold If no candidate wins more than 50% of the vote in a district, the highest vote-getter in a district receives two of the district's three delegates, and the second-place finisher receives one delegate......that's in April 19 so I'm guessing by then it will be a 3 horse race (Trump, Cruz, Rubio)....I will be surprise if Jeb is still in the race without winning a state and I will include Rubio.....We shall see!




I want to know what are Cruz and Rubio' path for 1,237 delegate because unless they win those states with winner takes all, I don't see a path for them.....Trump has a path, win the states with winner takes all and get 30% min. of the votes in the rest of the states that are proportional.


if Cruz or Rubio can't beat Trump in South Carolina which is very Republican and conservative I don't see them beating Trump in the moderate big states.

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Old 02-14-2016, 06:49 PM
 
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Cruz and Rbio are not gonna beat Trump in SC

Republicans are so screwed, it's not even funny.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 06:59 PM
 
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Cruz and Rbio are not gonna beat Trump in SC

Republicans are so screwed, it's not even funny.

so what is their path to get to 1,237?......if Rubio can't win Florida he is done........Cruz will win Texas (I think) but that's proportional.....that means Trump can come 2nd or 3rd and still get delegates.


of all the states of winner takes all delegates, Cruz or Rubio are not the favorite to win those states.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 07:11 PM
 
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so what is their path to get to 1,237?......if Rubio can't win Florida he is done........Cruz will win Texas (I think) but that's proportional.....that means Trump can come 2nd or 3rd and still get delegates.


of all the states of winner takes all delegates, Cruz or Rubio are not the favorite to win those states.
The only path they have and I don't think it's gonna go that way is if Carson, Kasich and Bush quit. I think if nothing changes it's gonna be an easy win for Trump.

I don't think people will vote for Bush but his fights with Trump are pretty entertaining.
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