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If he ran independent it wouldn't matter. Wouldn't have time to get placed on ballots. If want to vote independent vote for Jill Stein.
I am voting for Jill.
Bernie would be letting down his supporters if he ran a third party campaign, because it would mean that he's a liar with zero integrity. He has unequivocally stated many times that he will support Hillary if she is the nominee and that he will not run third party. He will have less than zero credibility on anything if he goes back on his word.
Exactly, the party doesn't owe Bernie anything and has trashed his supporters yet his supporters are supposed to surrender to Clinton? She can barely stave off a 74 year independent Senator from a small state who, thankfully not anymore, paraded himself as a Socialist in the country of the Red Scare.
Hillary is a horrible and vulnerable candidate.
That said, as a lawyer and a citizen I have a preference for a certain judicial style. I would prefer more SCOTUS Justices like Breyer, Ginsburg, Roberts, Kennedy, and Stevens over Justices like Thomas or Alito. Justices who understand the impact of their decisions are, IMO, more valuable than Justices who pretend to look to original meanings and then ignore them when its expedient.
If my state becomes, somehow, contested between the GOP/Hillary then I might bite the bullet. Otherwise, no way.
Exactly, the party doesn't owe Bernie anything and has trashed his supporters yet his supporters are supposed to surrender to Clinton? She can barely stave off a 74 year independent Senator from a small state who, thankfully not anymore, paraded himself as a Socialist in the country of the Red Scare.
Hillary is a horrible and vulnerable candidate.
That said, as a lawyer and a citizen I have a preference for a certain judicial style. I would prefer more SCOTUS Justices like Breyer, Ginsburg, Roberts, Kennedy, and Stevens over Justices like Thomas or Alito. Justices who understand the impact of their decisions are, IMO, more valuable than Justices who pretend to look to original meanings and then ignore them when its expedient.
If my state becomes, somehow, contested between the GOP/Hillary then I might bite the bullet. Otherwise, no way.
So, if for some reason your voted counted more you might feel obligated to vote for Hillary but otherwise no? This seems the same kind of reasoning you condemn Thomas and Alito for.
So, if for some reason your voted counted more you might feel obligated to vote for Hillary but otherwise no? This seems the same kind of reasoning you condemn Thomas and Alito for.
I think that's poor framing, my vote always counts the same. If my state is uncontested then I can support a third party. I'd much prefer a Johnson or Stein gaining access to critical campaign funding and air time.
By your reasoning, I am understanding the impact of my decision which would make it unlike Alito or Thomas, and more like the ones I stated in good favor.
"The Life of the Law has not been logic, it has been experience."
Oliver Wendell Holmes.
Aside from having said so explicitly a number of times, and being a man of integrity and authenticity, his run could result in no one getting 270EV and throwing the election to the House, which would likely elect a Republican to the WH. He doesn't want that.
If he can't beat Hillary, how is he possibly going to win a 3 way race with Hillary and Trump/Cruz? He is not going to pull in enough Trump/Cruz voters to win.
To think that all those of us who have made donations to Bernie's campaign, average $27 a piece, in total of $millions, could only end up being told by Bernie "Please vote for Secretary Clinton", is IMO a slap in the face. He should know that many of his supporters are absolutely against Clinton. If he loses DNC nomination, he should run independent, in which case I believe another wave of eager donations will go his way, and this time with no fear of rigged nomination process.
If you've sent Bernie money, you should be proud of how well he's done, but more importantly, you should be glad that he's put the issue of income inequality front and center. Hillary is not going to be able to ignore it and Bernie supporters shouldn't let her. Putting personal "feelings" for Hillary aside, who do you think is more likely to push for legislation that is aligned with Bernie's? Cruz? Definitely not. He'll be pushing the agenda of the far-right wing of the GOP. Trump? Who knows what that guy stands for? If you care about the issues that Bernie has discussed, you should listen to who he thinks is most likely to support the same type of agenda.
Nor should his supporters ignore all the other state and national races. The president is only one piece of the pie and Bernie supporters should continue to press their legislators for economic reform.
No one ever thought Bernie, a self-described Democratic Socialist, would ever generate the support he has. He has touched a nerve, and the fact that he probably won't win the nomination doesn't mean that all is lost. If you think he's smart and has good ideas, you should continue to listen and think about what he says, even if he loses the nomination.
I suspect there will be a hugging scene at the end of the convention and Bill and others will find a way to make Bernie somewhat happy...maybe with the platform or VP choice. (I would like to see him preside over the Senate but wonder if he'd take the job.) Bernie will support Hillary as will any of his supporters who have half a brain and consider the alternative. Remember that the SCOTUS hangs in the balance. Independent or third party is a road to nowhere and jeopardizes the whole election. Uniting behind Hillary makes sense if you value the presidency, SCOTUS and the Senate and I think Bernie does and most of his supporters do as well.
To think that all those of us who have made donations to Bernie's campaign, average $27 a piece, in total of $millions, could only end up being told by Bernie "Please vote for Secretary Clinton", is IMO a slap in the face. He should know that many of his supporters are absolutely against Clinton. If he loses DNC nomination, he should run independent, in which case I believe another wave of eager donations will go his way, and this time with no fear of rigged nomination process.
They will be told to vote for Secretary Clinton...as she'll be the DNC's choice for run for office. Most of Senator Sanders supporters are fairly rooted within the Liberal/Progressive ideology - so I assume most will indeed vote for Sec. Clinton. That shouldn't be surprising to anyone?
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