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Old 04-30-2016, 11:20 AM
 
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Yes.

Which corrupt liar is worse than the other?!?!

Hillary: liberal supreme court picks, failed foreign policy as a senator and secretary, more open borders, more PC BS, more issues like Social Security insolvency getting worse, etc...

Trump: potential to keep ticking off many people here and abroad, and much unknown.
When you put it that way it sounds bad, but clearly right on...
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Hillary is a hawk. She also voted for the Iraq war and supported the surge in Afghanistan among many other things.

Hillary the Hawk
And Trump is a non-interventionist or even moderately isolationist. So who is closer to the Republican position?
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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If any thought is frightening, it is the possibility of the Oval Office being occupied by that crooked, incompetent, pathological liar known as Hillary Rodham Clinton "the Wicked Witch of Wall Street".
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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And Trump is a non-interventionist or even moderately isolationist. So who is closer to the Republican position?
Historically? Trump is closer to the Republicans.

During the 1900s liberals were far more interventionist/hawkish than conservatives, although both did it.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:35 AM
 
Location: pensacola,florida
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Hillary scares me much more than Trump.The 'nuclear war' fear mongering worked against Goldwater and the democrats have tried it every four years since.

The Only president who ever 'dropped the bomb' was a democrat....I think Harry Truman did the right thing but its still a fact.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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The New York Times:

Libya:

"The president was
wary. The secretary of
state was persuasive.
But the ouster of Col.
Muammar el-Qaddafi
left Libya a failed state
and a terrorist haven."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us...ton-libya.html

Syria:

"And she pressed for the United States to funnel arms to the rebels in Syria’s civil war (an idea Obama initially rebuffed before later, halfheartedly, coming around to it)."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/ma...me-a-hawk.html


There's nothing antiwar about Hillary Clinton. Trump never did that, or wanted that.
Trump hasn't ever had the chance. You have no idea what he would do once he's in office. Would he continue to bluster without backing up the bluster? That's a surefire way to "not make America great again." Other countries will see him as a weak bully.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Historically? Trump is closer to the Republicans.

During the 1900s liberals were far more interventionist/hawkish than conservatives, although both did it.
What does that have to do with it? It was not a history question. If foreign policy is important to a Republican voter, then Clinton tracks the (current) values of the party much better than Trump does. She is also much closer on trade. The trade deals that Trump is so critical of are all Republican sponsored deals which Dems signed on to. Really the major chasm with Clinton is the social issues like gays and abortion and immigration. Even with immigration, Clinton is closer to what the Republican mainstream favors - path to citizenship.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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Please elaborate on how Trump would DESTROY this country which is already headed toward becoming a Third World cesspool.
Have you ever been to a third world country?
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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Trump hasn't ever had the chance. You have no idea what he would do once he's in office. Would he continue to bluster without backing up the bluster? That's a surefire way to "not make America great again." Other countries will see him as a weak bully.
Using your same logic...

Hillary has had the chance and proven herself a Hawk. You have no idea what she will do once she's in the highest office. Would she continue to be a hawk? That's a surefire way to doom America. Maybe she will try the Russian reset again.

Look Trump's "let more countries (S. Korea + Japan) have nukes" idea gives me worry, but you are a fool if you think that Hillary is not a hawk and you want to get into a peeing match about hypotheticals of Trump possibly being a hawk when Hillary is a hawk.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Hillary scares me much more than Trump.The 'nuclear war' fear mongering worked against Goldwater and the democrats have tried it every four years since.

The Only president who ever 'dropped the bomb' was a democrat....I think Harry Truman did the right thing but its still a fact.

The question should be: 'Democrats: How many of you plan on voting for Trump!' In the general election this can go either way. I saw one poll that stated more Democrats would vote for Trump than the other way around. Of course polls change; but it will never be 100% of one group voted for the other group or only one sided.


By the way, so far good old Jeffery Epstein and the trips that Bill made to his island, have not been thrashed out in the media. We still don't know what the reason was for Bill's trips? I would suppose that Trump could explore those possibilities; but maybe not? There are still many questions: Bill Clinton's FBI Head Working to Squash Jeffrey Epstein Narrative.
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