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way to cut jobs Bernie !! raise that minimum wage like you ever owned a business.
why go to college Bernie, I'm making 15 an hour now
You will have a much stronger bargaining position if minimum wage is $15, if you are making $15 an hour now. You will see a big raise in your wages. So tens of millions of workers at the lower end will see an increase in wages, that they havent seen in decades as the income and wealth in this country has been transfered to the 0.1%.
You will have a much stronger bargaining position if minimum wage is $15, if you are making $15 an hour now. You will see a big raise in your wages. So tens of millions of workers at the lower end will see an increase in wages, that they havent seen in decades as the income and wealth in this country has been transfered to the 0.1%.
Think it should be based off average cost of homes. I mean a $15 minimum wage is livable down South, but not much up North or in California.
Picketing for $15 an hour was probably the only real job Bernie ever had.
Well, Bernie's "fake job" comes with healthcare and a six-figure pension for life-pretty good deal if you ask me, especially seeing how pensions have nearly gone extinct and healthcare gutted in the private sector. He just needed the support of his community for decades-Democrats and Republicans- to keep it.
In 1985 someone would have said....."who is going to hire blah, blah, blah at $7.50 an hour"?
Do you not understand how negotiating (a very capitalistic thing) works?
Ahhh....if the law is set, you can't negotiate. If someone who doesn't speak much English but wants a job goes for a job and they are told they can't be hired, they can't say "I'll work for $12/hour to start off and if you like me, you can give me a raise in a few months" because THE LAW SAYS you can't pay anyone less than $15/hour. If you are not worth $15/hour, you can't get a job.
And this is not a new concept. Bernie is proposing a pre-apartheid South Africa policy that has been proven to hurt minorities:
Sanders is old, dumb and crazy. If people want to work for less than $15, let them work, it's better than having no job!
I agree. I mean, when you get a job, you sell your labor. Like anything else that is sold, it can be negotiated. Someone off the street with no experience is told they can't be hired can't say "I'll start at $8 an hour and if I prove myself, give me a raise." With a $15/hour minimum wage, an employer can't give them that chance and will NOT gamble with that kind of money on someone with no experience.
I have asked this question a million times but I get nothing but ad hominems in reply, but here it is: who is going to hire a convicted felon at $15/hour? Who is going to hire a high school drop out at $15/hour? Nobody. Is is better that they make $0 an hour than make, say, $8 an hour, with the possibility of a raise later on?
And then there is the issue of what happens to those people already making $15/hour or close to it. They, too, will demand more, and those above them will demand more etc. And this isn't an opinion: a firm in Seattle tried making their minimum salary $70,000 a year, and it ended badly: The $70,000 Minimum Wage Experiment Reveals A Dark Truth
The issue is people like Bernie truly do not understand human beings are ambitious by nature. We want MORE. We want more money, more things, and a chance to improve ourselves AS INDIVIDUALS. To Bernie, the individual is the ultimate evil.
If I am making $15/hour after several raises that I EARNED and someone brand new starts making the same amount, I better get a raise or I'm leaving.
And I would put that up another notch: poverty is good. Why? When I see someone as poor as I was growing up, it makes me feel better that I am no longer there. If everyone made as much as I did or more I would feel like the biggest loser on the planet.
Inequality is a natural part of the human condition. Some have more, some have less, some have it all, some have nothing. This is a GOOD THING as long as IT IS ONLY THOSE WHO DESERVE IT WHO ARE ON THE BOTTOM OR THE TOP.
Bill Gates deserves his wealth and that alcoholic, abusive, womanizing man-child who was my father deserves the poverty he is stuck in. Berntards do not understand that some people ARE JUST LAZY AND USELESS AND DESERVE POVERTY.
Australia has a $15 minimum wage and it is a poorer country than the US.
I'm not sure what measurement you're using to determine that Australia is "poorer" than the US. Australia is the most expensive country in the G20 to live in, and the fourth most expensive in the entire world. And the median income in Australia is $80,704 vs $44,300 for the US.
Ahhh....if the law is set, you can't negotiate. If someone who doesn't speak much English but wants a job goes for a job and they are told they can't be hired, they can't say "I'll work for $12/hour to start off and if you like me, you can give me a raise in a few months" because THE LAW SAYS you can't pay anyone less than $15/hour. If you are not worth $15/hour, you can't get a job.
And this is not a new concept. Bernie is proposing a pre-apartheid South Africa policy that has been proven to hurt minorities:
Indeed, let's let people who can barely communicate in English (like Columba Bush, Melania Trump or Rafael Cruz, Sr.) negotiate with prospective employers. It will be a race for the bottom . . . . . Soon those folks would be scrubbing toilets, or giving lap dances, for $1.45 per hour. Now that's American Dream, son.
Mick
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