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Old 05-11-2016, 05:07 AM
 
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As you know, when Ted announced in IN that Carly Fiorina will be the VP on his ticket, y'all mercilessly criticized Ted for doing that. He was losing at that point, but everyone agreed then that IN will be pivotal in his taking the nomination at a contested convention. Mr. Trump mocked him hard, too. Back then, I agreed with you. It was ridiculous and presumptuous.

However, Mr. Trump just announced that Chris Christie will head the White House transition team when he takes over the office after he wins in November (his words . . . . no "if" in there). No one says boo. Isn't that also ridiculous and presumptuous? How about waiting until you win the election to name a transition team, like every other president has done because . . . . . doing so before you win is an ahole move.

Had Hillary named her transition team now, y'all be howling like Michael J. Fox in Teen Wolf 13. Be a man and admit that, yo.

How about some logical consistency and have some integrity.

Mick
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Trump plans ahead. And also by evaluating people now, it will eliminate the opportunistic ones who are late getting on the Trump train. Trump values loyalty. Why not choose from a pool of folks who are already supporting him? Makes sense to me.

Cruz, on the other hand, used Fiorina as a desperate attempt to bolster his failing campaign. Big difference.
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:18 AM
 
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Trump plans ahead. And also by evaluating people now, it will eliminate the opportunistic ones who are late getting on the Trump train. Trump values loyalty. Why not choose from a pool of folks who are already supporting him? Makes sense to me.

Cruz, on the other hand, used Fiorina as a desperate attempt to bolster his failing campaign. Big difference.
He can plan all he wants, but announcing it publicly is totally different. Like Cruz, Mr. Trump's announcement is a tactical one. . . . . desperate or not . . . . hmmm.

Mick
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:58 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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He can plan all he wants, but announcing it publicly is totally different. Like Cruz, Mr. Trump's announcement is a tactical one. . . . . desperate or not . . . . hmmm.

Mick
Tsk...tsk.... I don't know why you are having such a hard time understanding this - there are different rules and standards for Trump than other candidates. For instance, he doesn't lie, he evolves or is engaging in hyperbole.
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:15 AM
 
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I know it may be hard for many of you, especially the ardent Trump haters, but there is a BIG difference.

Trump is the nominee. Trump is confident he will win in November.

Cruz was losing, and was so far behind that it made absolutely no sense whatsoever to announce a running mate except for a desperate publicity stunt.

It really isn't at all similar and if you can't see the difference it is probably just willful ignorance.
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:34 AM
 
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I know it may be hard for many of you, especially the ardent Trump haters, but there is a BIG difference.

Trump is the nominee. Trump is confident he will win in November.

Cruz was losing, and was so far behind that it made absolutely no sense whatsoever to announce a running mate except for a desperate publicity stunt.

It really isn't at all similar and if you can't see the difference it is probably just willful ignorance.
No. Mr. Trump is the "presumptive" nominee. There is no way for him to become the nominee until the convention in July at the Qucken Loans Center.

Cruz wasn't trying to win 1,237 delegates himself at that point. He was trying to block Mr. Trump's path to 1,237. Go Google and you will see everyone saying that IN will be pivotal in Cruz' attempt at blocking Mr. Trump from getting 1,237. He and Kasich stayed in even after they were mathematically eliminated. Why? Because they had no chance of getting a nomination? That would be retarded. No, because they could win at the convention. . . . if you remember, many experts were saying that if it goes beyond the first ballot, Mr. Trump would lose.

So it is the same in all material respects, even if not identical.

Mick
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:38 AM
 
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Yeah, I am well aware of what Cruz's "plan" was. How'd that go for him?

Trump's sitting at about 1200 now. He only needs 1237.

The only way he isn't the nominee is if you are living on Fantasy Island.
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:47 AM
 
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If he has Christie play any role whatsoever it will simply reinforce the reasons I'm not voting for him.

Christie is a pig.
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Old 05-11-2016, 07:26 AM
 
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No. Mr. Trump is the "presumptive" nominee. There is no way for him to become the nominee until the convention in July at the Qucken Loans Center.

Cruz wasn't trying to win 1,237 delegates himself at that point. He was trying to block Mr. Trump's path to 1,237. Go Google and you will see everyone saying that IN will be pivotal in Cruz' attempt at blocking Mr. Trump from getting 1,237. He and Kasich stayed in even after they were mathematically eliminated. Why? Because they had no chance of getting a nomination? That would be retarded. No, because they could win at the convention. . . . if you remember, many experts were saying that if it goes beyond the first ballot, Mr. Trump would lose.

So it is the same in all material respects, even if not identical.

Mick
Maybe before picking Fiorina, Ted should have hired a probability and statistics expert.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:45 AM
 
Location: New York
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He can plan all he wants, but announcing it publicly is totally different. Like Cruz, Mr. Trump's announcement is a tactical one. . . . . desperate or not . . . . hmmm.

Mick

Well said Mick!!
! Trump is a master of the media, tactically planing what he does so he gets maximum results.


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If he has Christie play any role whatsoever it will simply reinforce the reasons I'm not voting for him.

Christie is a pig.
Wrong - Christie is a Pit-Bull... An excellent pick for U.S. Attorney General...
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