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If Trump is so very right, why hasn't he filed any motions to have the judge recuse himself? Why does he simply whine and whine about it to his cult and the media?
Know why? Because there are no legal grounds for the motion.
"...that whatever Mr. Trump’s grievances, his lawyers haven’t filed any motion asking for the case to be reassigned to a different judge. If Mr. Trump has a problem with the judge, “that’s the legitimate way” to register a complaint, he said...."
This is simply Trump the eternal victim claiming everything is someone else's fault.
Bill Maher is correct. Trump is a whiny little beyotch. And he's losing support among sane unbrainwashed Republicans.
Not true. Donald Trump is a special case because he is famous. With private citizens, judges do not know people's political positions. This judge is involved in a professional group of judges that is ethnically based.... and knows Donald Trump wants to build a wall between the United States and Mexico.
Does anyone know of ANY examples of liberals being skeptical of a verdict because the jury was mostly white?
Hmmmmm??? I wonder if a black liberal would accept a white judge -- under any circumstances - who was a member of a whites-only professional group of judges??
Private citizens, like Trump, often make their political positions public. And judges are often very much aware of these political positions, which in some cases are very much a part of the proceedings.
If a member of the Ku Klux Klan is accused of assaulting someone, should a black judge automatically recuse himself from the case? That seems to be Trump's position. Is it yours as well?
Lawyers tend to be on the more intelligent side. Why would they intentionally take on a name for their organization that was associated with a racist orgnization, if they didn't want to be associated with them?
Like all those lawyers who belong to the Congressional Black Caucus.
Their PURPOSE is to tilt laws and rulings to favor Black people.
If Trump is so very right, why hasn't he filed any motions to have the judge recuse himself? Why does he simply whine and whine about it to his cult and the media?
Know why? Because there are no legal grounds for the motion.
"...that whatever Mr. Trump’s grievances, his lawyers haven’t filed any motion asking for the case to be reassigned to a different judge. If Mr. Trump has a problem with the judge, “that’s the legitimate way” to register a complaint, he said...."
This is simply Trump the eternal victim claiming everything is someone else's fault.
Bill Maher is correct. Trump is a whiny little beyotch. And he's losing support among sane unbrainwashed Republicans.
That would mean that Trump would need some facts, according to him all his lawyers indicated that the judge has been incorrect in his ruling to unseal the Trump University documents.
Not true. Donald Trump is a special case because he is famous. With private citizens, judges do not know people's political positions. This judge is involved in a professional group of judges that is ethnically based.... and knows Donald Trump wants to build a wall between the United States and Mexico.
Does anyone know of ANY examples of liberals being skeptical of a verdict because the jury was mostly white?
Hmmmmm??? I wonder if a black liberal would accept a white judge -- under any circumstances - who was a member of a whites-only professional group of judges??
You keep posting this and I don't know what you mean.
People "accept" judges whose personal beliefs differ from their own all the time. They have no choice. Cases are randomly assigned and the parties accept the judge assigned to the case. If, at some point in the litigation there is EVIDENCE that a judge is biased against the party or the cause of action, the party can move to have the judge recuse him/herself. If the judge refuses, the order is appealable.
This isn't some novel legal concept. Trump has avenues if he truly believes Judge Curiel is biased against him. The fact that his attorneys have not filed a motion to recuse speaks louder than all of Trumps racist whining.
Private citizens, like Trump, often make their political positions public. And judges are often very much aware of these political positions, which in some cases are very much a part of the proceedings.
If a member of the Ku Klux Klan is accused of assaulting someone, should a black judge automatically recuse himself from the case? That seems to be Trump's position. Is it yours as well?
Not sure your example is right. But this judge is very unfair. The lead plaintiff even asked out of the case, and it still wasn't dropped.
I think if Al Sharpton was running for president, and had a civil case against him. And a white judge - involved in a whites-only professional group of judges. And the judge kept ruling against Sharpton, the media would take his side. There's a double standard. And the GOP establishment is so terrified of the media, they throw Trump under the bus.
Trump IS saying that a black judge could not be impartial in a case involving a party who had spoken out against blacks and other minorities, by virtue of being black.
That IS his argument.
A judge of Hispanic descent can not be impartial in a case involving Trump who has spoken out against illegal Hispanic immigrants, by virtue of his Hispanic descent.
A judge of the Muslim faith cannot be impartial in a case involving Trump who has spoken out against Muslims because he feels that Islam is at war with the United States, by virtue of the judge's Muslim faith.
TRUMP'S argument is that judges should be evaluated based on their ethnic, cultural or religious backgrounds to determine their fitness to hear certain cases.
Not sure your example is right. But this judge is very unfair. The lead plaintiff even asked out of the case, and it still wasn't dropped.
I think if Al Sharpton was running for president, and had a civil case against him. And a white judge - involved in a whites-only professional group of judges. And the judge kept ruling against Sharpton, the media would take his side. There's a double standard. And the GOP establishment is so terrified of the media, they throw Trump under the bus.
This judge is not unfair at all.
A lead plaintiff can ask to be dropped from a lawsuit, that doesn't nullify the cases of the other plaintiffs.
Your Al Sharpton story is a fantasy to support your opinion, nothing more.
That would mean that Trump would need some facts, according to him all his lawyers indicated that the judge has been incorrect in his ruling to unseal the Trump University documents.
So like you stated, what's he waiting for?
I'm wondering how long they will be his lawyers? He is putting them in a very unethical situation.
"...Trump’s lawyers at O’Melveny & Myers haven’t filed a motion asking Curiel to recuse, but Trump has said publicly he’s considering it. If Trump did instruct his lawyers to ask the judge to leave the case, they might have a “Rule 11 problem,” said Mark Foster, a legal ethics expert and partner at Zuckerman Spaeder.
Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure says lawyers must have a legal and factual basis to make a motion in court. Foster said a judge’s ethnicity or the fact he has ruled against a litigant were unlikely to meet that standard. Violating Rule 11 could lead to sanctions against a lawyer..."
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