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Old 06-11-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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Now it's espionage? LOL! You guys are a hoot. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously?
A Romanian hacker has admitted to hacking into her account. No, Hillary didn't purposefullly engage in espionage, but her desire to keep emails away from the FOIA led her to participate unwittingly in espionage.

Why are Democrats so cavalier about national security?
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Old 06-11-2016, 08:47 AM
 
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You do know that Bill Clinton was president when indictments were drawn up against his wife for Whitewater right? Do you think the president is going to let his DOJ prosecute his wife?

Now we have another Democrat in the White House, do you think he will let the Democrat's frontrunner for the presidential race be prosecuted?

Do you honestly think the lack of prosecution of the Clinton has anything to do with guilt, or innocence, or is it because of politics?

There is smoking gun evidence that Hillary committed espionage, the only we she won't be prosecuted is because the DOJ is directed not to pursue charges.
I went looking for proof of what you allege in bold. I wasn't surprised to find it being talked about on all the far right wing conspiracy sites, but no where else. What a shocker.
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Old 06-11-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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I went looking for proof of what you allege in bold. I wasn't surprised to find it being talked about on all the far right wing conspiracy sites, but no where else. What a shocker.
Oh, you expect the sycophantic main stream media would keep these stories alive?

Why has the Dem party devolved into such idiocy?

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Old 06-11-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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It would be nice if ALL the candidates and all of us would just focus on the problems facing this country. You know those pesky things like the economy, jobs, healthcare, security, freedom, crime, illegal immigration. Oh Did I mention the economy?
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Old 06-11-2016, 08:52 AM
 
Location: United States
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Obviously, we don't think that she did those things.

Your dark suspicions aren't evidence. They're just more of the same old **** we've been hearing for 30 years. You need to actually bring it.
It's not my suspicion, it's the facts, and evidence that are publicly available.



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Now it's espionage? LOL! You guys are a hoot. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously?
Do you even know what espionage is?

Are you saying the all the legal experts are wrong when they say she committed espionage?

There are numerous legal experts that have laid out the evidence, and the explained the laws that Hillary violated. Sorry, but I will believe the legal experts that present the facts, over a Hillary supporter that refuses to look at any of the evidence.

You completely lack any credibility on this matter if you don't even understand how it is that Hillary violated the Espionage Act, 18 U.S. Code § 1924.

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Old 06-11-2016, 08:54 AM
 
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Oh you expect the sycophantic main stream media would keep these stories alive?

Why has the Dem party devolved into such idiocy?

Oh, I know, it's a CONSPIRACY!! Just like Obama was not really born in Hawaii. EVERYONE knows it's TRUE but it's been COVERED UP for 54 YEARS!!!!

THAT'S HOW GOOD THEY ARE, FOLKS!!

(Sorry for the caps, but that's how they do it on all those conspiracy sites that keep dredging up 30 year old conspiracies that never went anywhere. I figure it must be a rule to shout when you are spouting nonsense. Perhaps they believe if you drown people out by yelling at them, they won't stop to realize how stupid you sound?)
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Old 06-11-2016, 09:04 AM
 
Location: United States
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I went looking for proof of what you allege in bold. I wasn't surprised to find it being talked about on all the far right wing conspiracy sites, but no where else. What a shocker.
Nope, there is proof. In fact, there is a lawsuit to release the indictments to the public.

The indictments are real, the government does not dispute that fact.



Judicial Watch v. National Archives and Records Administration

From the court documents.


At issue in this Freedom of Information Act (“FOIA”) lawsuit are draft indictments of former First Lady, former U.S. Senator, former U.S. Secretary of State, and current U.S. presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. The indictments were prepared by Deputy Independent Counsel Hickman Ewing, Jr. of the U.S. Office of the Independent Counsel (“OIC”) between 1996 and 1998 and concern alleged false statements to federal investigators and the withholding of evidence by Mrs. Clinton while she was First Lady of the United States. The draft indictments have been in the possession, custody, and control of Defendant National Archives and Records Administration (“the Archives”) since March 2004.

Judicial Watch requested the draft indictments in March 2015, but the Archives refused to produce them, purportedly to protect grand jury secrecy and Mrs. Clinton’s privacy interests. There is no dispute about the scope of the Archives’ search. The only question before the Court is whether the Archives has satisfied its burden of proving that FOIA Exemptions 3, 6, and 7(C) apply. Because an enormous amount of information about the independent counsel’s investigations into Mrs. Clinton’s conduct as first lady, including grand jury information, has already been published in official reports and other government records, there is no grand jury secrecy to protect. For this same reason, Mrs. Clinton has no privacy interest in keeping the draft indictments secret.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...tion-01740.pdf

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Old 06-11-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Trump or whoever becomes the nominee (don't think it's going to be Trump) needs to keep it up. For example, an ABC News report came out just yesterday that emails (that some say are "boring") show that Clinton gave a large donor, a securities trader, a position on a sensitive government intelligence board.

"Rajiv K. Fernando’s only known qualification for a seat on the International Security Advisory Board (ISAB) was his technological know-how. The Chicago securities trader, who specialized in electronic investing, sat alongside an august collection of nuclear scientists, former cabinet secretaries and members of Congress to advise Hillary Clinton on the use of tactical nuclear weapons and on other crucial arms control issues."

While it's not unusual to reward donors with favors, this even "baffled the professional staff" of the ISAB.

"Fernando’s lack of any known background in nuclear security caught the attention of several board members, and when ABC News first contacted the State Department in August 2011 seeking a copy of his resume, the emails show that confusion ensued among the career government officials who work with the advisory panel."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clint...ry?id=39710624

Hopefully he'll just sit there and be a yes man to the people who really know what is going on since he knows nothing about the subject. At least Clinton didn't use him to replace a critical government national security thinker.

While it won't matter to the Clinton sheep, whose only interests seem to be flooding the US with immigrants, legal and illegal, to replace American citizens in the workplace, to be given free money, or maybe even the Obamaphones, and who can't concern their pretty little heads with these "boring" issues, people need to know who they would be getting as a president.

What was it Obama's advisor said that they rely on? Oh yeah--the stupidity of the American voter. He could be right from what I am seeing here.
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You do know that Bill Clinton was president when indictments were drawn up against his wife for Whitewater right? Do you think the president is going to let his DOJ prosecute his wife?
If that's the case, then Hillary isn't Dubya's wife. Must be some reason HIS DOJ didn't go after her, then.
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Now we have another Democrat in the White House, do you think he will let the Democrat's frontrunner for the presidential race be prosecuted?
There was a two-term Pub in between them.

FYI

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Do you honestly think the lack of prosecution of the Clinton has anything to do with guilt, or innocence, or is it because of politics?

There is smoking gun evidence that Hillary committed espionage, the only we she won't be prosecuted is because the DOJ is directed not to pursue charges.
As I've posted, it's ALL political name-calling. The GOP is terrified of Hillary. If there was anything substantive they could dig up on her, she would have been done many years ago.

Instead, she's on her way to the White House.

Dear GOP, try to stop her. Better hope your "world-class" candidate can do it, because your smear campaigns haven't worked.
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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LOL - GOP terrified? Have to laugh at that. They--the establishment GOP--PREFER her over Trump. The only reason they are talking to Trump at all is because American citizens just seem to keep voting for him and he increased their voter base by millions, and he may actually succeed in keeping them from being insignificant. Otherwise they'd dump him like an old pair of shoes, which I think they eventually will at the convention if they can get their plans to work.

Here's how it will likely go. The FBI will do it's job, Obama will pardon Hillary, Obama will sweet-talk Sanders' people so they'll vote for Hillary, uninformed voters will vote for her based on her ultimately- forgotten-about campaign promises, and the country will get 500% more unvetted refugees, foreign visa workers will increase as well--Ryan budgeted for 250K at least--and corporations will thrive and revel in the new cheap labor while American citizens will lose their jobs. The only thorn in their side is that pesky Obamacare, but they are working on that.

Clinton's continued criminal corruption will only be known to the insiders, except for the few stories here and there--the establishment Dems and GOP will continue to received their millions in payoffs, the FBI higher ups will be fired or quit because they chose to go after Clinton in the first place, even though it was their job to do so.

So cheer up OG, unless a miracle happens that can save this country, Clinton may well be the President. Remember, #foreignlivesmatter #corporatelivesmatter.

PS - Whoa. Let me edit this. She WILL keep her campaign promises of giving amnesty to any illegal who can get into the US between now and January, and she will gut that "pesky" Second Amendment. After all, Dems do need that fresh voter base who have no idea how our government SHOULD run.

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If that's the case, then Hillary isn't Dubya's wife. Must be some reason HIS DOJ didn't go after her, then.


There was a two-term Pub in between them.

FYI



As I've posted, it's ALL political name-calling. The GOP is terrified of Hillary. If there was anything substantive they could dig up on her, she would have been done many years ago.

Instead, she's on her way to the White House.

Dear GOP, try to stop her. Better hope your "world-class" candidate can do it, because your smear campaigns haven't worked.
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