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Old 07-10-2016, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Clinton supporters, who are promising more economic repression, are hoping that there are no alternatives to their corrupt leader? You're wrong.
oh yes keep telling us how to vote for the same party that is in control and actually pushes trashcan policies that represent the industry's that have gutted this country.

 
Old 07-10-2016, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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oh yes keep telling us how to vote for the same party that is in control and actually pushes trashcan policies that represent the industry's that have gutted this country.
You're talking about the Democratic/Republican Party right? The Party that has gutted the middle class economy that took one hundred years to build? More of the same? Give me a break. BTW, you should lend your user name to Clinton. Very descriptive and illuminating.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Unless the Dems. in the Senate stop TPP it is over the week after the election. The GOP has already agreed to TPA in both houses. Someone will have to put a hold on the bill to stop it.

This is just another of those bills which the GOP like to pass when in control of both houses.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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You're talking about the Democratic/Republican Party right? The Party that has gutted the middle class economy that took one hundred years to build? More of the same? Give me a break. BTW, you should lend your user name to Clinton. Very descriptive and illuminating.
Oh I forgot, every party is the same , it's tough to remember who's here to talk about politics and who's here to push One World conspiracies
 
Old 07-10-2016, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Unless the Dems. in the Senate stop TPP it is over the week after the election. The GOP has already agreed to TPA in both houses. Someone will have to put a hold on the bill to stop it.

This is just another of those bills which the GOP like to pass when in control of both houses.
Dems have never stopped any trade bill of consequence. They always give them just enough votes to pass so that they provide enough cover for themselves in states where their Free Slave Bills are hated. TPP belongs 100% to Obama. He'll begin getting his payoff pretty soon.

What makes the Dems most despicable is that they are Quislings. Dante had a special place for traitors in his Inferno. Anyone who votes for these traitors is voting for more economic repression of the middle class and its children.

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Old 07-10-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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“The good news is that virtually everyone who spoke during the debate on trade made it clear that they opposed this unfettered free trade agreement,” Mr. Gunnels said “Senator Sanders, Secretary Clinton and the overwhelming majority of Democrats agree: The T.P.P. should not come up for a vote after the election. If Democrats are going to prevail in November, we must make clear to the American people that we stand firmly against the T.P.P.”

This is crooked Hillary saying "trust me". AKA bend over America.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Dems have never stopped any trade bill of consequence. They always give them just enough votes to pass so that they provide enough cover for themselves in states where their Free Slave Bills are hatred. TPP belongs 100% to Obama. He'll begin getting his payoff pretty soon.

What makes the Dems most despicable is that they are Quislings. Dante had a special place for traitors in his Inferno. Anyone who votes for these traitors is voting for more economic repression of the middle class and its children.
Except that it was first talked about in 2006. If it makes it to his desk he will get to sign it. If it truly is as bad as it first looks he will be remembered as the guy who signed it and the people who pushed (GOP) it through will then beat on him. When its the House and Senate who should be remembered as the people who passed it.
 
Old 07-10-2016, 06:34 AM
 
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Both parties want the TPP, you only need to look at who voted for the TPA (fast track authority) to know both sides want this passed. Democrats will vote for it in part to give Obama what he wants, and also both Democrats and Republicans favor big corporations over workers and both want TPP passed. And if you think that's not true Democrats ask yourselves why Bill Clinton reneged on his campaign promise of changing parts of NAFTA before he'd be willing to sign it, and why Obama is pushing TPP now.

When the TPA passed everyone knew it virtually guaranteed final passage of the TPP because it will only need a simple majority to pass. The difficult part was getting the TPA passed, and that was done.

People need to start recognizing who the two major parties have become, corporate fascists. A third party needs to rise up and supplant these two, or relegate them to minority parties holding very few seats. Only problem is a viable third party doesn't exist at this point. No reason a third party can't represent all economic classes fairly.

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Old 07-10-2016, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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“The good news is that virtually everyone who spoke during the debate on trade made it clear that they opposed this unfettered free trade agreement,” Mr. Gunnels said “Senator Sanders, Secretary Clinton and the overwhelming majority of Democrats agree: The T.P.P. should not come up for a vote after the election. If Democrats are going to prevail in November, we must make clear to the American people that we stand firmly against the T.P.P.”

This is crooked Hillary saying "trust me". AKA bend over America.
Talk is very cheap especially when passing Slave Bills is so lucrative for traitorous politicos. As I said, the Dems always give just enough votes to pass the bills while all of them get to share in the payoffs. It's the way a corrupt system works. How long are people going to keep falling for "at least we tried"?
 
Old 07-10-2016, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Both parties want the TPP, you only need to look at who voted for the TPA (fast track authority) to know both sides want this passed. Democrats will vote for it in part to give Obama what he wants, and also both Democrats and Republicans favor big corporations over workers and both want TPP passed. And if you think that's not true Democrats ask yourselves why Bill Clinton reneged on his campaign promise of changing parts of NAFTA before he'd be willing to sign it, and why Obama is pushing TPP now.

When the TPA passed everyone knew it virtually guaranteed final passage of the TPP because it will only needs a simple majority to pass. The difficult part was getting the TPA passed, and that was done.

People need to start recognizing who the two major parties have become, corporate fascists. A third party needs to rise up and supplant these two, or relegate them to minority parties holding very few seats. Only problem is a viable third party doesn't exist at this point. No reason a third party can't represent all economic classes fairly.
Agreed. Time for the working class to fracturing the One Party System.
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