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Old 08-07-2016, 01:32 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Your such a good {R} {barf} with that screen name {lmao} that you are on the same side as Wasserman/Shultz where super delegates are in play to keep the grass roots out. What a petty tyrant you are where you want a group to be able to thwart the democratic process and the will of the people. What ever type of {R} you are I hope it does n't spread because you are no better then a {D., Wasserman/Shultz meet your twin Dole/McCain
Broken record time: Political parties can decide how they are going to choose who they want to put their time and resources behind. If they want to select THEIR nominee by who can walk on their tip toes the longest, then it is perfectly within their rights. Political parties are not in the constitution. The selection of a party's nominee is not anymore an official part of the democratic process than Joe the Hobo throwing his name on the ballot as an independent candidate. Don't like it? Form your own political party. Sheesh.

If I could change only one thing about our political process it would be that a person must take a political science or civics course by a competent instructor before they are allowed to vote.
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Old 08-07-2016, 03:30 AM
 
Location: North America
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Since Trump is mainly pushing his brand, the fallout for him would be very little if any at all.
He could still brag at cocktail parties, his own or the ones thrown by his friends the Clintons, that he once was the GOP presidential candidate who could have become president.
It really is a win win for him.
Come to think of it a loss would probably be his preferred outcome, lest he would actually have to do the work that is expected from a president.
Oh Trump will come out smelling like roses no matter what. He could stoke the fires of the election being rigged for some time if he loses, keeping himself relevant. Give interviews, write a book about the experience, give stump speeches for candidates that agree with his message.
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Old 08-07-2016, 04:21 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Broken record time: Political parties can decide how they are going to choose who they want to put their time and resources behind. If they want to select THEIR nominee by who can walk on their tip toes the longest, then it is perfectly within their rights. Political parties are not in the constitution. The selection of a party's nominee is not anymore an official part of the democratic process than Joe the Hobo throwing his name on the ballot as an independent candidate. Don't like it? Form your own political party. Sheesh.

If I could change only one thing about our political process it would be that a person must take a political science or civics course by a competent instructor before they are allowed to vote.

Why do you assume that poster doesn't understand all of this? It doesn't make his post any less true.

The party has the right to do whatever they want. It doesn't mean they should. It doesn't mean there is NO consequences to their actions.

What you want is for people to sit silently about it and just take it. You would like to silence dissent.

Let the parties do whatever they want, but people should shout from the rooftops if they don't like it. Then people will TRULY understand the way the system works, not the way you want them to understand it.
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Old 08-07-2016, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Broken record time: Political parties can decide how they are going to choose who they want to put their time and resources behind. If they want to select THEIR nominee by who can walk on their tip toes the longest, then it is perfectly within their rights. Political parties are not in the constitution. The selection of a party's nominee is not anymore an official part of the democratic process than Joe the Hobo throwing his name on the ballot as an independent candidate. Don't like it? Form your own political party. Sheesh.

If I could change only one thing about our political process it would be that a person must take a political science or civics course by a competent instructor before they are allowed to vote.
I was aware of everything you wrote and I am not a member of either of the pathetic parties. I was just stating that I am against the {D} parties super delegates and it is tyrannical and it's main purpose is to thwart the democratic primary process and as Wasserman/Shultz stated to keep the grass roots out. You know if the election was closer between Hillary and Sanders it would have went to Hillary because of the super delegates,right?
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Old 08-07-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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The important point is that superdelegates are there to prevent a disastrous candidate from getting the nomination. (This obviously goes against the wishes of the grassroots, but the fact of the matter is that sometimes those in the base want to nominate a candidate who is unelectable.) Sanders had no chance of getting the Democratic nomination because of superdelegates. But had he been the nominee, he would have lost badly. (The polls which showed Sanders defeating potential GOP rivals are meaningless because no negative advertising had yet been unleashed against him. As much as Sanders supporters don't want to admit this, an avowed socialist cannot be elected president.)

Ironically, if the Sanders supporters are successful in getting their way, the Democratic Party may get rid of superdelegates in future elections (while, as I mentioned earlier, the GOP is likely to establish the use of superdelegates beginning in 2020).
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