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Old 09-27-2016, 07:57 PM
 
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What you call deflection is the truth - except you Trumpettes can't handle the truth.
I see you doubled down and spun your deflection into name calling. Keep it classy.
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Old 09-27-2016, 07:58 PM
 
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Remember Romney's tax plan? He ran on reducing taxes and closing loopholes. He was a little vague about which loopholes he was going to close, but at least he acknowledged it was a problem. Donald is a king of loopholes, and city data loves him for it. It also blames "the government" for not closing them. Don't elect somebody who benefits from them, and maybe there will be progress.
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Old 09-27-2016, 07:58 PM
 
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The government is supposed to solve our problems yet they can't even solve a problem like the tax code.
yea they can, they'll gain your support to raise taxes on someone else and they end up raising taxes on you.

You haven't noticed politicians like Hillary won't say that government has to reduce spending (like me and you have to do) when we're in debt. Instead they always want to dig deeper in the American people's pocket.
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Old 09-27-2016, 08:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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Even $0 if he gets away with it. There is no civic duty to pay more in taxes than you are legally required, and anyone on this message board would do the exact same thing in his shoes.
Actually, I wouldn't.

Call me an "evil socialist," but I like having functional infrastructure, a funded military, schools to educate our kids, a space program, and so forth.

Unlike the right-wing extremists, I don't believe the laughably idiotic notion that if the "evil government" and its "evil taxes" vanished, somehow America would magically change into a happy, fairy-tale land of untold riches for everyone. Right-wing loons can't even name a single functional nation that lacks a working central government, but they so badly want to get rid of it anyway.

And, unlike that lying, sleazy, worthless hypocrite Trump, paying my taxes costs me a measurable amount of money. Unlike him, I am not so rich that I can ignore the tax burden. But unlike him, I'm not a raving, bigoted, narcissistic sociopath who has made a career out of cheating others and sticking them with the cost of my failures.

Trump is not just a liar - he is the embodiment of everything wrong in this nation. He is a violent, nasty, selfish, crude, bigoted, ignorant hypocrite with a ego the size of the garish monuments he's built in his own laughable honor. There is no valid reason to vote for him, and all the twisted lines of reasoning used by the far-right do is illustrate how selfish and out of touch with reality they are.

No excuse is off limits to Trump-suckers; they attempt to bash Clinton on her "ethics," and yet are now in the laughable position of defending everything from not paying one's taxes to forcing religious tests for citizenship and giving jackboots the right to stop and search people at random. Just more hypocrisy from the "small government" far right.

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Old 09-27-2016, 08:00 PM
 
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Remember Romney's tax plan? He ran on reducing taxes and closing loopholes. He was a little vague about which loopholes he was going to close, but at least he acknowledged it was a problem. Donald is a king of loopholes, and city data loves him for it. It also blames "the government" for not closing them. Don't elect somebody who benefits from them, and maybe there will be progress.
LOL, so you're saying Hillary doesn't benefit from the tax code. OMG, Hillary supporters don't have a clue how the tax code works and why it is written they way it is.
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Old 09-27-2016, 08:04 PM
 
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LOL, so you're saying Hillary doesn't benefit from the tax code. OMG, Hillary supporters don't have a clue how the tax code works and why it is written they way it is.
Someone started a thread about Trump, saying he was right to make his comment yesterday that pissed me off. I don't want to talk about Hillary here, but I see - you can't discuss matters without deflecting.

You know everything about taxes, since your 1040 is longer than mine! (FYI - the form is 2 pages long)
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Old 09-27-2016, 08:06 PM
 
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Actually, I wouldn't.

Call me an "evil socialist," but I like having functional infrastructure, a funded military, schools to educate our kids, and so forth.

Unlike the right-wing extremists, I don't believe the laughably idiotic notion that if the "evil government" and its "evil taxes" vanished, somehow America would magically change into a happy, fairy-tale land of untold riches for everyone. Right-wing loons can't even name a single functional nation that lacks a working central government, but they so badly want to get rid of it anyway.

And, unlike that lying, sleazy, worthless hypocrite Trump, paying my taxes costs me a measurable amount of money. Unlike him, I am not so rich that I can ignore the tax burden. But unlike him, I'm not a raving, bigoted, narcissistic sociopath who has made a career out of cheating others and sticking them with the cost of my failures.

Trump is not just a liar - he is the embodiment of everything wrong in this nation. He is a violent, nasty, selfish, crude, bigoted, ignorant hypocrite with a ego the size of the garish monuments he's built in his own laughable honor. There is no valid reason to vote for him, and all the twisted lines of reasoning used by the far-right do is illustrate how selfish and out of touch with reality they are.

No excuse is off limits to Trump-suckers; they attempt to bash Clinton on her "ethics," and yet are now in the laughable position of defending everything from not paying one's taxes to forcing religious tests for citizenship and giving jackboots the right to stop and search people at random. Just more hypocrisy from the "small government" far right.
Excellent post and reps to you! What's more offensive is that there are apparently plenty of people who think he is right and this is the right way to live.
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Old 09-27-2016, 08:07 PM
 
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LOL, so you're saying Hillary doesn't benefit from the tax code. OMG, Hillary supporters don't have a clue how the tax code works and why it is written they way it is.
she has her 'fans' right where she wants them.

#jimjonesjealous
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Old 09-27-2016, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Well yeah, if one chooses to not take a deduction for their mortgage and children...that person may be an idiot.
If they deduct that despite not having either that's fraud.
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Old 09-27-2016, 08:09 PM
 
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Excellent post and reps to you! What's more offensive is that there are apparently plenty of people who think he is right and this is the right way to live.
Ok - tomorrow your salary doubles. Will you donate half of that increase to the government if we ask you nicely? Or do you find the best way to keep as much of it as possible?
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