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I love how the Trump guys loved to point to the polls when he was doing well, then they dismiss them when they turn ugly. You aren't fooling anyone.
Did I say I was a Trump guy. I would rather have a care taker govt., fire every single politician and start over. Trump is least likely to raise my taxes.
Are they all wrong? I do not know but I know the polls were predicting a loss for Brexit until the results came in. The main proponents even conceded a loss that morning.
And someone is too dumb to notice the dates. Noteworthy is how the dates polled always differ from the dates published.
One would think it's not rocket science, but for Hillbots, pretty much everything is rocket science.
Sure.
If you're too dumb to realize that it takes a day or two for the dozens of people working the phones to do that, then compile all their collected data and send it up the pipeline to those who assemble the data and write up a paper - and the release is often dozens of pages long - proof-check it all multiple times, and then send it to media outlets, who then publish it.
Then it's 'noteworthy'. But only then.
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Originally Posted by pknopp
Are they all wrong? I do not know but I know the polls were predicting a loss for Brexit until the results came in. The main proponents even conceded a loss that morning.
Oh, you know that, do you?
The polls from the last 10 days of the campaign:
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Date - Leave - Remain - Undecided - Pollster - Type
22 Jun 2016 45 45 10 YouGov online
22 Jun 2016 45 44 11 Opinium online
22 Jun 2016 43 41 16 TNS online
22 Jun 2016 42 48 11 ComRes phone
20 Jun 2016 44 45 11 Survation phone
19 Jun 2016 44 42 13 YouGov online
19 Jun 2016 47 53 2 ORB phone
18 Jun 2016 42 45 13 Survation phone
17 Jun 2016 43 44 13 YouGov online
17 Jun 2016 44 44 12 Opinium online
16 Jun 2016 44 42 14 YouGov online
15 Jun 2016 45 42 13 Survation phone
15 Jun 2016 43 46 11 BMG phone
15 Jun 2016 51 41 9 BMG online
14 Jun 2016 49 43 8 Ipsos Mori phone
13 Jun 2016 45 46 9 ComRes phone
13 Jun 2016 49 44 7 ICM online
13 Jun 2016 50 45 6 ICM phone
13 Jun 2016 46 39 15 YouGov online
13 Jun 2016 47 40 13 TNS online
The majority of the polls called the outcome correctly. Of the five biggest spreads, four were for LEAVE (10%, 7%, 7%, 6%) and only one was for REMAIN (6%). Aggregated, all these polls collectively show LEAVE over REMAIN by 1.5%. In other words, the Brexit polling did, in fact, correctly predict the result. And given that the final result was LEAVE by 3.8%, the differential is 2.3%, well within the MoE of virtually any poll. So not only did the pre-Brexit polling hit the result, it got within the MoE on the numbers.
God, the lengths people will go to in order to ignore things that make them unhappy...
The Real Clear Politics Average has Clinton at +6.2 in the head-to-head with Trump right now, and if you take out the LA Times poll (which has them tied), that becomes a solid +7.
It appears that even the most devout Trump supporters no longer have even the inaccurate polls on their side. Giving Trump a 6 or 7 point boost due to bad methodology still isn't enough to give him a lead.
It's funny to think back to all of the people I've heard say it would be a Trump landslide and the talk of a "silent majority." Trump will almost certainly finish with the lowest percentage of votes since John Q Adams in 1824 (30.91%)! And to think people have raved about how Trump has been so popular....
If you're too dumb to realize that it takes a day or two for the dozens of people working the phones to do that, then compile all their collected data and send it up the pipeline to those who assemble the data and write up a paper - and the release is often dozens of pages long - proof-check it all multiple times, and then send it to media outlets, who then publish it.
The majority of the polls called the outcome correctly. Of the five biggest spreads, four were for LEAVE (10%, 7%, 7%, 6%) and only one was for REMAIN (6%). Aggregated, all these polls collectively show LEAVE over REMAIN by 1.5%. In other words, the Brexit polling did, in fact, correctly predict the result. And given that the final result was LEAVE by 3.8%, the differential is 2.3%, well within the MoE of virtually any poll. So not only did the pre-Brexit polling hit the result, it got within the MoE on the numbers.
God, the lengths people will go to in order to ignore things that make them unhappy...
So what are you saying here? Most of them were wrong.
Probably b/c we have gotten rid of land lines, and don't accept calls on our cell from unknown callers.
Perhaps they should adjust the frequency on the Tin-foil hat...tune in to pollsters......
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