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Say what you will about Pat Buchanan, but Pat Buchanan has this nailed. Say what you will of Donald Trump, but he 'gets' where this country is, why and how it has evolved and where it is headed. Trump is for himself mostly, if not totally. However, just as his understanding of marketing has brought him great success, so too does he understand what ails the middle class, of all colors.
The establishment.
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Yet, some of us recall another time, when Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas wrote in "Points of Rebellion":
"We must realize that today's Establishment is the new George III. Whether it will continue to adhere to his tactics, we do not know. If it does, the redress, honored in tradition, is also revolution."
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What explains the hysteria of the establishment?
In a word, fear.
The establishment is horrified at the Donald's defiance because, deep within its soul, it fears that the people for whom Trump speaks no longer accept its political legitimacy or moral authority.
It may rule and run the country, and may rig the system through mass immigration and a mammoth welfare state so that Middle America is never again able to elect one of its own. But that establishment, disconnected from the people it rules, senses, rightly, that it is unloved and even detested.
Having fixed the future, the establishment finds half of the country looking upon it with the same sullen contempt that our Founding Fathers came to look upon the overlords Parliament sent to rule them.
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By suggesting he might not accept the results of a "rigged election" Trump is committing an unpardonable sin. But this new cult, this devotion to a new holy trinity of diversity, democracy and equality, is of recent vintage and has shallow roots.
For none of the three -- diversity, equality, democracy -- is to be found in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers or the Pledge of Allegiance. In the pledge, we are a republic.
When Ben Franklin, emerging from the Philadelphia convention, was asked by a woman what kind of government they had created, he answered, "A republic, if you can keep it."
Pat Buchanan has it bass-ackwards, as is his habit. The people have looked at Trump and decided that, all things considered, the establishment is the better choice. That rather puts Trump in a bind as regards legitimacy.
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The establishment is horrified at the Donald's defiance because, deep within its soul, it fears that the people for whom Trump speaks no longer accept its political legitimacy or moral authority.
"The people for whom Trump speaks" are in the minority. Oh, they feel very much entitled to run things - they've been shown a fictional version of 1950s America, told it's the natural order of things, and they feel cheated.
The hillbillies pull everything out of the closet and blame everyone and everything but so many young people due to yhe Internet are now realizing that there is more that they didn't know.
Most millenials don't watch regular channels so they get their news else where and many are not motivated to vote.
There is no fiction. The historical record of the deliberation that went into the founding of this country, it's governmental form - republic - the whys and wherefores are well documented. That predates the 1950s considerably. The only fiction is how you recast the central point to conform to your progressive narrative. Mr Trump is but a role player in the larger, central point. Your lead with him is either distracted or an attempt to distract.
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA
Pat Buchanan has it bass-ackwards, as is his habit. The people have looked at Trump and decided that, all things considered, the establishment is the better choice. That rather puts Trump in a bind as regards legitimacy.
"The people for whom Trump speaks" are in the minority. Oh, they feel very much entitled to run things - they've been shown a fictional version of 1950s America, told it's the natural order of things, and they feel cheated.
Ahhh, can't comment about the article, so attack the messenger. The messenger is not always the message.
William O. Douglas, a Democrat, appointed by FDR served longer than any other justice, 1939-1975. An old style, non-establishment Democrat; he said, as quoted in Buchanan's article.
"We must realize that today's Establishment is the new George III. Whether it will continue to adhere to his tactics, we do not know. If it does, the redress, honored in tradition, is also revolution."
I gather you are one of the, The constitution is out of date. folks.
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Originally Posted by banjomike
Pat Buchanan is a relic.
He still believes this is 1980 and Regan will be elected soon, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Ahhh, can't comment about the article, so attack the messenger. The messenger is not always the message.
William O. Douglas, a Democrat, appointed by FDR served longer than any other justice, 1939-1975. An old style, non-establishment Democrat; he said, as quoted in Buchanan's article.
"We must realize that today's Establishment is the new George III. Whether it will continue to adhere to his tactics, we do not know. If it does, the redress, honored in tradition, is also revolution."
I gather you are one of the, The constitution is out of date. folks.
Nope. I believe the Constitution is never out of date.
And since I don't know you from Adam's off ox, I don't presume to know if you think it is or not.
I do know, however, that I believe Pat Buchanan has a very skewed view on the Constitution and about everything else. Buchanan, as I said, is a relic. Most of his beliefs arise from the passing politics of the recent past and have nothing much to do with the Constitution, other than his way of attempting to wrap it around every notion he has.
He was perfect for his 80s speech writing job. But once the 80s passed into history, so did he. The only thing that has changed in the man is the part of his hair. As he grows older, the comb-over increases every year. The biliousness remains unchanged, as does his incoherent discontent with everything that is not white Catholic conservative.
Ok Johnny One Note. Last I checked, none of my words holds Mr Buchanan up as a paragon of anything. I even exerted Justice Douglas' quote about the establishment, trying to focus again on why I believe there is a shrillness, hysterical response to Mr Trump's candidacy. My very first post began with Mr Buchanan can be question, second guessed; 'think what you will or want ( I honestly don't recall which word I used)...And, yes it is about the legitimacy of the Constitution, today, tomorrow, and when it was written.
So, I don't get your rant. I'll just lay it off to too much Kickapoo joy juice. Hope the hangover is not to tough this morning.
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Originally Posted by banjomike
Nope. I believe the Constitution is never out of date.
And since I don't know you from Adam's off ox, I don't presume to know if you think it is or not.
I do know, however, that I believe Pat Buchanan has a very skewed view on the Constitution and about everything else. Buchanan, as I said, is a relic. Most of his beliefs arise from the passing politics of the recent past and have nothing much to do with the Constitution, other than his way of attempting to wrap it around every notion he has.
He was perfect for his 80s speech writing job. But once the 80s passed into history, so did he. The only thing that has changed in the man is the part of his hair. As he grows older, the comb-over increases every year. The biliousness remains unchanged, as does his incoherent discontent with everything that is not white Catholic conservative.
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