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View Poll Results: Does Clinton's Popular Vote Victory Reduce Trump's Mandate?
YES. Trump's vote count is too low to be a mandate for sweeping change. 70 27.89%
NO. Trump won, and that's reason enough for a mandate for sweeping change. 125 49.80%
DOESN'T MATTER. The mandate concept is too vague to mean anything. 56 22.31%
Voters: 251. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-21-2016, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Actually no. Reid foolished used the nuclear option in 2013. Unless otherwise specified in the Constitution, all it takes is a simple majority which the Republicans hold. And Pence is the President of the Senate in case any ties need to be broken.
They don't have 50 votes. Sorry about that. The traditionalists will hold.
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Old 11-21-2016, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking I completely understand...

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It is meaningless ... what proof of identity is required in California, Oregon & Washington to vote ? Is word of mouth OK ?

If Podesta was smart, he would've recruited about a half million illegals from western states to move to the Rust Belt and vote for Hildebeest.
You got nothin'

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Old 11-21-2016, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So when does she get to nominate the next Scotus, sign off on new Federal Law, Pick a new cabinet which will run the USA goverment, sign treaties, etc etc etc?

<crickets>

I thought so.

Your candidate lost.
I've never said anything to the contrary.

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Time to put on some big boy pants and move on.
Like your side did the past eight years?

And that was after two VERY BIG Obama victories.

Talk to me about pants after the right gets some. Their behinds have been hanging out for everyone to see for way too long.

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Old 11-21-2016, 03:56 PM
 
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Your side?

Dear, I voted for Obama.
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Old 11-21-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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you are a fool if you think there aren't loop holes to go around that.


Illegals have taken a risk the moment they enter our country illegally and violate the law and steal Identity and lie to get services.....you think they won't vote against Trump because their interests is at stake because they are afraid they will get deported in a state that protects illegals in sanctuary cities which California has from San Francisco to Los Angeles? BHAAAAAAAA!!!!



iLLEGALS will take any risk to vote against Trump because the Democrat Party has embolden them for votes.......when has California deported illegals for violating the law in a none criminal violent act?.......even the illegals that commit criminal violent acts, California protects them from deportation.....and you think they are afraid to get deported if they get caught lying in a form to vote in California????? PLEASE, You are very naive!


And of course you have actually reputable proof of this instead of just insisting people who don't believe your Alex Jones stuff are naive?

Please post it . And not the crap from the guy claiming to have done a study but who refuses to release his supposed info for examination by experts .

How the heck do you think anyone could even know this stuff 2 weeks after an election? You think they let Alex Jones come and rifle through their ballots ? You think one or two people could even go through 11 million votes in this time frame even if allowed to by the state ?

Think for a minute instead of believing everything some right wing nut job tells you .
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Old 11-21-2016, 04:08 PM
 
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Keep telling yourself that Trump's big loss in votes (now approaching 2 million) is meaningless. Trumplings need to have some degree of denial, after all.

Yes, he's got the white House.

Looks like it'll be a fun four years.

Let's see how this plays out.



Actually it is meaningless . And I am in no way a Trump supporter . But Trump is POTUS with a GOP House and Senate . He has absolutely no obligation to hold back on his agenda or consider Democrats feelings or desires because he lost the pop vote . It just doesn't matter . This whole" there is no mandate " nonsense is just that , nonsense . The only time a mandate or lack thereof would matter is if you are dealing with a opposition party with a House or Senate majority that could draw courage from their guy winning the pop vote, or would need to consider a lot of compromising if their side got their butts kicked , as Dems did in 84 .

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Old 11-21-2016, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Actually it is meaningless .
Meaningless in terms of who gets inaugurated in January, that's true.

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And I am in no way a Trump supporter . But Trump is POTUS with a GOP House and Senate . He has absolutely no obligation to hold back on his agenda or consider Democrats feelings or desires because he lost the pop vote . It just doesn't matter . This whole" there is no mandate " nonsense is just that , nonsense . The only time a mandate or lack thereof would matter is if you are dealing with a opposition party that could draw courage from their guy winning the pop vote, or need to consider a lot of compromising if their side got their butts kicked .
Trump did get his butt kicked by the voters.

The "rigged system" elevated him to office. But that's the system and despite all his pre-election whimpering, he's legally assuming office in two months.

Now, he and the GOP mouthpieces (and the numerous Trumplings posting here) can act like that will have no effect, but they all know better. Of course they'll move forward with their agenda, as they should.

But let's see how far they overplay their hand. They're holding a pair of tens after the draw, not a straight flush.

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Old 11-21-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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Meaningless in terms of who gets inaugurated in January, that's true.



Trump did get his butt kicked by the voters.

The "rigged system" elevated him to office. But that's the system and despite all his pre-election whimpering, he's legally assuming office in two months.

Now, he and the GOP mouthpieces (and the numerous Trumplings posting here) can act like that will have no effect, but they all know better. Of course they'll move forward with their agenda, as they should.

But let's see how far they overplay their hand. They're holding a pair of tens after the draw, not a straight flush.

Hillary got her butt kicked. She lost 7 states that Obama won and barely won 5 more solid blue states. Trump appealed to a larger voting base and won in those states.
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Old 11-21-2016, 05:04 PM
 
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Meaningless in terms of who gets inaugurated in January, that's true.



Trump did get his butt kicked by the voters.

The "rigged system" elevated him to office. But that's the system and despite all his pre-election whimpering, he's legally assuming office in two months.

Now, he and the GOP mouthpieces (and the numerous Trumplings posting here) can act like that will have no effect, but they all know better. Of course they'll move forward with their agenda, as they should.

But let's see how far they overplay their hand. They're holding a pair of tens after the draw, not a straight flush.


Each side always overplays their hand . Obama is famous for the quote " elections have consequences . We won ", and Pelosi once said in regards to a bill " yes we wrote the bill. We won the election ".
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Old 11-21-2016, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Hillary got her butt kicked. She lost 7 states that Obama won and barely won 5 more solid blue states. Trump appealed to a larger voting base and won in those states.
Clinton is up to 1.7 million votes over Trump. At the very most, Trump got votes from 25% of the country. Not only has he no mandate, he is detested by the majority. You think it doesn't matter because they live in blue states (where the jobs and population centers are)? I cannot believe that Trump voters think he has a mandate. It's laughable.

Hillary Clinton now 1.7 million votes ahead of Donald Trump | The Independent
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