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Old 11-18-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by WIHS2006 View Post
Have you seen his picks? Bannon and Sessions are vocal White supremacists. Sessions was rejected for a federal judgeship in 1986 because of his openly racist views. It's very, very, very rare that a federal judgeship nomination is rejected by the US Senate Judicial Committee. It's only happened twice in the last 50 years.
Apparently anyone who has the misfortune to hold a race card that says they are something other than white and male - with the notable exception of Ivanka - doesn't get to 'play', which is what the poster means by 'trump is not playing'.

 
Old 11-19-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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Default "A Transitional Period" - We don't know how it will unfold, its a big nation with many elements to factor and deal with.

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I have not seen any thing but accusations, but no real facts.
Could it be that "blind allegiance" has blinded you fully to choose not to acknowledge the volumes of information which exist? No one needs to present it specifically for you, its quite a saturated volume of such information available for anyone to pursue and read. Convincing you as an individual has no meaningfulness; when such a mass of data exist.

The history of his picks are a troubling spot, and even their manner in self presentation is so far to the extreme right, that its just not a good thing for America. This has to play itself out, to demonstrate that the core premise is one of Unity, Equality, Fair Play and the concerns of a people as being "united" as One People, as being the primary objective.

This aim to fill position with people who have history against civil rights, who have a fire brand when it comes to some foreign nations, and certainly it is not good when people are with concepts that want to dismantle variable things, even before they get in the seat. If it continues it this pathway with these type of picks, what is more likely is Trump will set up the nation for a rebellion, if not a Civil War of Sorts. Trump has a big job to try and reign in and contain the white supremacist mentality that exist in the appointments he is making. A question that continues to grow, is - can he contain it, will he contain it, and does he support it, and will he bond himself unto it. That sad part is: that during his campaigning, he pander to it. Now... it is uncertain as to, "whom he is" in these regards? That is a very big question at this point and time. (his past does not serve him well in these regards), because his past has been wrought with racist elements, bigoted commentary and divisiveness of a variety of sorts, therefore, it's of many points with a great deal of unsettling uncertainty!?!, Especially for one who is in the seat of the Presidency?


If by some means, his aims at a Populism turn, where the focus goes to the people and not to the wealthy then it will be an historical event if he can do so, and promote "equality in the masses", and make the nation perform to benefit the average citizen. Then it will be remarkable.

If he fails to achieve these goals of "equality for all", and "prosperity for the people", and dismantling this process we see today of all the wealthy going to a few. Then:
People should look around the world at the Devastation's; and know, devastation has come to places in the world of which one would not have thought such destruction could ever come over different times in History.

Never in America's History of Modern Day, has there been so much challenge in who is to Preside as President.

But it might be wise for those who follow so blindly and those who want to see a effort to try and remake a "white state", to truly open their eyes and see such a thing is not going to be allowed, certainly not to send American backwards into the likes of Confederacy Modeling, and Certainly not Antebellum Framework.

The only pathway for Trump to succeed, is to "focus on the general population", and promote a system where the will and want of the people become the premier focus, and the efforts promote a change of paradigm from one where everything is designed as being directed to enrich the already wealthy. to one that is designed where the wealth is spread among the people through systems that put the interest of the people, ahead of the interest of the wealthy.

Trump has chosen a volume of "Angry White Men" to fill far too many position at the top. They talk of the winning of office as "A Movenment" - They talk of A Populism in agenda..... What we don't know is, who and how that Populism will look like.

All the people who supported his rise to Presidency, will become a very angry crowd and they will push a backlash that is horrendous, if he does not push his aim of a populist agenda to support an empowering of the people, and stay focused on an agenda where the economic's of the nations is for the full and widespread benefit of All American People.

It's a big task, because the wealthy don't give up power easily. They rejected the efforts when President Obama said, "Let's Republican American From The Bottom Up", The wealthy paid big money to fight hard to dominate the Republican System to fight their battles to fight against President Obama and to fight against any efforts to "build for the people". The best thing in this regard that Trump has as an Advantage, is he has demolished the previously existing Republican System, and vowed to rebuild it as a Populist Program directed at empowering the American Common People. If he can make that push successfully, and at the same time, keep racism from rising among the masses, he can be and become a good president that leads the country back to the hands of the people and away from the controls of the Wealthy who've dominated and decimated the mass of the people.
Please Read the Link Above, "POPULISM" and look at the many variations of such movements and pay close attention to the outcomes.

If Trump can restore the Republican Party back to the Ideals of Lincoln's Vision of Freedom and Equality of "ALL" American People regardless of Race, Creed and Color, Then he will garner the support of all ethnic groups. But, if he allows any element of Racism and Secularism based on Culture and Ethnicity, then he will not achieve the goal of making "One America". It's a big job to build a Fair Play American, because history has never seen such in the lands of America. We can look at the fight the wealthy engaged against President Obama, at every step when he pursued to bring Fair Play and Equality for All, not just socially, but economically in all areas of the economy and its avenues of Opportunity. Again, Trump has something in his favor, and that is the fact he demolished the Republican System and Silenced Their Leadership. The problem is, he did not change the hearts and minds of those who will fight by any means to keep the wealth in their hands, nor did he change the minds of those who want to promote a continuance of racist imbalances and divisions of bigotry and racism. Those are big task.

Do I think he's capable of achieving those things. I'd say he has a chance, because the Republican system was broken down from what it was before he became the Party's Image. His big task among the people is to change the hearts and minds of the masses to become to disband their sense of racism. I think he has a chance to do that as well, if he can build a platform where "Equality and Opportunity" is plentiful and open to all, and ALL can see and experience and uplift in their economic standing and have accessibility to equality in participation to gain economic uplift.
President Obama could have achieved much of the same, EXCEPT, the racism was far too much supported by the wealthy to deny any economic equality unto all, and in the Right Winger who were influenced by the position of the Wealthy who controlled the Republican Party and System, engaged a fight to deny economic parity among the masses, in their fight, they further devastated the working poor whites and the dire poor whites became a sacrificial group, as well as the aim to keep minorities disenfranchised was too much of a core agenda within the wealthy controlled Republican System.

Trump say's he acknowledges this, He said he wants to build a fair and equitable system for all. He wants to have a rule of law for the general population , but he wants to have a system of rule of law that is enforced equally upon the wealthy. IF he can do such a thing, then he may be able to develop a Populist Movement that sup recedes where many other attempts at Populism has failed.

He has to be careful that it does not morph itself into any forms of "Fascism" : (Fascism = a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government)

For more clarity of definition:
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a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dictatorial
The gravity of the seat of President, has at least temporarily brought Trump to have gained a greater respect for the works of President Obama, and Trump say's he understand the aims of President Obama are also similar to the Aims of Trump in the statement of "working for the people". (we will see if that is the case), a big difference is Trump wants to go at it in a more aggressive manner, even brash if we want to look at wording that reflects his candidacy commentary (we don't know if his aims are of some dictatorial aspirations????) .

What Trump will come to learn, is the challenges that Obama faced from an obstructionist Republican Party and System, was a big impediment, of which Trump himself added un-needed fuel to the contending aims of Republican aganda. Now, Trump has to find out how to not get stuck in the same situation of being faced with Obstructionist aim, from the staunch old school Republican's who are still within the Congressional Ranks.

One thing is certain, they will fight him if he tries to support ALL the people above concerns for the wealthy, because they are of many who are still in the pocket of the lobbyist. The difference is, Trump was once one of those lobbyist and/or employed such lobbyist to push his special interest. So, he knows the underhanded and collusive games they play and he has been among those who play that game. If he can and more so, if he will use that knowledge to fight back the lobbyist, and if he can push the ideal of "term limits", then he can break the cycle of career politicians who serve at the beck and call of the wealthy, not at the best interest of the people. This is a very big job.

During the Campaign, Trump called them out, from banking to congressmen, to the wealthy manipulators, and he remained focused on primarily funding his own campaign, which left him beholding to very few. That is another things that works in his favor.

I think Racism will fade down into a historical minimum, if Trump can build a system where ALL American's can live in a economically stable system, and earn a good living and take care of their families and work on building their dreams to be a contributor and builder in our society.

He has said he wants to Uplift our Schools, and make them State of The Art and the best in the World, I think to achieve such, he will have to minimize the money going to private schools and re-focus that money back to public schools, to give them the highest of stature of schools in the nation. People will gladly gravitate back to the public school system. The same elements with Jobs, if he can change the tone and mindset of industry to become a nation that build no less than 40-60% of what it consumes, then American will become enriched by and through its own production and still remain a good player in the world economy of global nation. But, one thing is a fact, we can no longer functions with the building of on 20+% of what we consume, and thus importing the rest. When we look at a global system, 40% is a huge number that can be balanced globally where each country can be a builder of what they consume and still be a supporting importer from other nations, but no nation can prosper when it imports more than it builds, especially when the import % is above 60%.

As he did acknowledge that his personal business is peanuts, based on what he is in the seat to deal with.
This is the biggest Job and ever far bigger than he even remotely imagined it to. When he spoke with President Obama, as being the first time he actually met the man and talked with him, it was an awakening on many levels, not only to have respect for the man, but as he said, Obama had done some good things, because Trumps eyes were opened to the fact that, much that he previously criticized, was now in his hands and its far bigger and far more complex than he thought when looking in from the outside.

So..... We will see.... what unfolds. The people have to be smarter than they were before, and people have to know when the wealthy are trying to influence the attitude and mentality of the people, and guard against it. The people also must stand strong against "racism", "bigotry", "segregationist agenda" and they must embrace a sense of "equality" when it comes to respect of American People of all ethnicity and all colors. Equally so, the people must find the fortitude to over come their bias against other people around the world based on historical bigotry.

Now, if any people think they are not faced with great needs to change within themselves and let go of racism, bigotry and segregationist ideals, then they are sorely mistaken.

We either move ahead as A United People of these United States, with Fair Pay and Equality as our base goal and our strongest Ideal, or we become the fractured nation and with toil fuels multi levels of Civil Strife that will rage on for decades to come.

Last edited by Chance and Change; 11-19-2016 at 08:50 AM..
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