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Old 01-22-2018, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has thrown out the states Congressional maps ruling that it has violated the state Constitution and ordered new maps be drawn by the middle of Feb. The PA GOP has stated they will ask the Supreme Court for a stay in the case until the Supreme Court decides the current gerrymandering case docket in front of them.

A similar stay request from the Supreme Court was just granted in North Carolina, after those districts were thrown out. However, its unclear if a similar stay will be granted in this case since the ruling was on State Constitution grounds.

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WASHINGTON — Pennsylvania’s congressional district map is a partisan gerrymander that “clearly, plainly and palpably” violates the state’s Constitution, the State Supreme Court said on Monday, adding to a string of court decisions striking down political maps that unduly favor one political party.

The court banned the current map of the state’s 18 House districts from being used in future elections, and ordered that a new map be submitted to the court by Feb. 15. But the state’s Republican-dominated Legislature, which approved the current map in 2011, has already said it would try to overturn such a decision in federal court. That would set up another legal battle over gerrymanders in a year already filled with them.

Whether such an appeal would succeed is debatable, because the Pennsylvania court’s ruling was based entirely on whether the map adhered to the state Constitution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/22/u...-congress.html



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Old 01-23-2018, 03:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Good news. Thanks for posting.
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Murphy, North Carolina
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Regardless of what your political stance is on things, i think we can all agree that gerrymandering is wrong, no matter who does it.

I agree with this decision...good god, that district looks awful.
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Regardless of what your political stance is on things, i think we can all agree that gerrymandering is wrong, no matter who does it.

I agree with this decision...good god, that district looks awful.
Agreed. It goes both ways.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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If the severe gerrymandering was ended, you'd see the Dems in control of the House...it's quite telling that Dems have gotten more votes for them in the last few House elections, yet the GOP has the majority.
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Old 01-24-2018, 12:49 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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If the severe gerrymandering was ended, you'd see the Dems in control of the House...it's quite telling that Dems have gotten more votes for them in the last few House elections, yet the GOP has the majority.
That is proportionally true, but not overall, at least not in 2016.
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Old 01-25-2018, 03:48 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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If the severe gerrymandering was ended, you'd see the Dems in control of the House...it's quite telling that Dems have gotten more votes for them in the last few House elections, yet the GOP has the majority.
No, because House seats aren't national elections, they're local.

End gerrymandering. I'll lose a seat in Wyoming in exchange for 15 in New York. I'll even trade one in Kansas for 2 or 3 in Maryland.

Be careful what you wish for.
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Gerrymandering has cost Monroe County strong and effective representation: https://www.fairdistrictspa.com/the-.../district-maps. We have always been split and we had to share power with counties that have nothing in common. We are primarily a tourist county and a transplant county; yet we share representation with some old mining towns or the more industrial areas to our south. Sometimes we have watched as other counties, that share our congressional power, have benefited from aggressive infrastructure improvement while we waited for funding.

When you look at what they did to my County in 2012 for House Districts; it looks like they carved us up like a Thanksgiving turkey! I am in favor of redrawing the lines so that the districts are more contiguous and have common ground.
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:18 AM
 
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If the severe gerrymandering was ended, you'd see the Dems in control of the House...it's quite telling that Dems have gotten more votes for them in the last few House elections, yet the GOP has the majority.
"If the severe gerrymandering was ended, you'd see the Dems in control of the House"

The dems controlled the house for 40 straight years.

Dem controlled states have gerrymandered them for eons just as repub controlled states have.
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:22 AM
 
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Agreed. It goes both ways.
But would the courts ever rule against Democrat gerrymandering?
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