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Old 08-05-2019, 07:03 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Funny stuff

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...-pronoun-usage

Besides the usual fun stuff of open borders, anti military, abortion etc.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:38 AM
 
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I watched some footage of that and was certain it was some kind of parody, but it was real. They took several hours just to get a vote on convention rules because people kept interrupting with tiny personal requests (like stop whispering because the guy can’t personally focus with a lot of noise, or stop waving signs, or stop using gendered language by saying guys, etc.).

I would laugh these fools off as unimportant if they didn’t already have some power with the Squad in Congress.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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My favorite was "guys" being gendered language. I am a senior woman, and I have both been lumped in and also used the term "guys" (as in "Would you guys look at this?") for decades referring to BOTH sexes. (OOPS -- should I say ALL sexes??? LOL.)

And, honestly, being worried about speaking to reporters, when all they have to do is express their feelings to look ridiculous!!??? These people, I swear, are their own worst enemies! (But I love it when they make themselves look like idiots -- less power to the Progressives, that way! If they represent progress, I would rather go back a century!)
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Old 08-06-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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stuff at last NRA convention: traded charges of massive corruption, accusations of extravagant organizational spending on Wayne LaPierre's wardrobe and more...
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Old 08-06-2019, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Proper pronouns are a hot topic because they carry words into our laws.

For the past thousdand years or so, 'he' was the only legal term in the law to define any person, male or female. The prevailing thought behind this was the masculine tense embraces the feminine as the proper role in human life.

When the feminist movement of the 70s, which included a lot of female grammarians, tried to change this, it was met with solid opposition from all sides. Proper English has become standard all over the world, wherever English is spoken and learned as a second language.

But English has very few alternatives to 'he' as a singular. There's a current push to use 'they' as a gender-neutral replacement for 'he', but they is more widely understood to be a plural pronoun, not a singular. And these days, gender itself is much more flexible than at any time in our species' history.

I think Katharsis is right- casual usage has removed the gender out of the slang word 'guys'. 'Guy' is a word that can be singular and plural and easily be understood, as it's some of the most widely used slang words in our language all over the world.

Women use it just as much as men to describe themselves, it is easily pluralized, and it has lost it's criminal associations long ago; the last time a criminal was called a 'guy' came long before anyone now living was born. It's now a word that is both gender neutral and very friendly.

English is a language that has always incorporated slang into its lexicon. If a slang word survives long enough, its definition does become standard, and once standardized, often enters into our officially recognized written and spoken speech.

Since 'guy' and 'guys' is used all the time now in our courts, making it official would be quite easy for it to become a legal term, and once legal, it would firmly replace the unsatifactory 'he'.
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Old 08-06-2019, 01:35 PM
 
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There is a longer thread on this in the main forum. Lots of video of the Loonies
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