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Old 04-20-2008, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Madison, NC
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I have been hearing the "elitist" label being used more and more by HRC and McCain to describe Barack. Both are hurling it and repeating it like the intention is to make him be what he is not.

A former manager of mine once said, if you tell someone something over and over enough times, they will eventually believe it - whether is its true or not.

Is that what is happening here?

While I have said that I would support the party's nominee - no matter who they are - I have also said, that I'd like to be able to stand up and defend either when the time comes, rather than just sit back and wait until November and vote a straight democratic ticket while holding my nose.

I watched the Compassion Forum that aired on CNN and listened intently.

What I recall - is HRC reminding us of what happens to you politically when you are perceived as an "elitist". In essence, Gore in 2002 and Kerry in 2004.
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:45 PM
 
Location: AZ
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i dont really view obama as that big of an elitist, Im not completely sure why everyone is screaming that he is...
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:37 AM
 
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Desperate Hillary and supporters and the follower-in-chief Mccain in tow.

We will see how much more intelligent is the American public and electorate
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:52 AM
 
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I wouldn't consider Obama a elitist by any stretch but HRC is grasping at straws & McCain shouldn't talk with his $100 million Barbie wife. This is the best they can do?
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:09 AM
 
Location: NC
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If Elitist means FLAMING LIBERAL with touches of Red Communism, Pink Socialism, Black racism, Muslim extremeism and white Chicago gangsterism then we can paint Barack Hussein Obama as an ELITIST.

OBAMA, CHANGE WE CAN BE AFRAID OF !!!
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:51 AM
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There are at the very least two contradictory statements in the above <del>histrionic rant</del>, eh, post.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:09 AM
 
Location: NC
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Donklephant » Blog Archive » Obama “Bitter” Remarks Reveal Liberal Elitism
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First, it’s not about the bitterness. Sure, people are bitter, that’s apparent to anyone paying attention. What’s disturbing about the comment is the “clinging” statements. People in floods cling to trees not because those trees are wonderful places to be but because they can’t find anything else. If we gave them a boat, they’d use the boat. So, when Obama says people “cling” to guns and religion, anti-immigrant feelings and anti-free trade sentiments, what he’s saying is that, if we only gave them better lives (cured their bitterness), they’d let go of these inadequate, insubstantial matters.

I don’t know how else to interpret the use of the word “cling” but as condescension. It’s a word of pity – we feel sorry for those who have to cling. So, yes, Obama was being quite condescending to frame people’s religious beliefs and NRA memberships as things to which people must hold on to because they have nothing better available to them. Obama is displaying the elitist liberal tendency to see blue-collar and rural “red” voters as misled people who would surely vote Democratic if only they were better enlightened. Then they wouldn’t cling to such unnecessary matters as religion and guns.

I can’t use this one comment to brand Obama as undoubtedly elitist, but at the very least, it shows how, when going off-script, he’s likely to reach for the elitist liberal ideology to frame his opinions. His own experiences show he understands the value of religion and his opposition to NAFTA shows he doesn’t really think anti-free trade sentiments are merely something to cling to (unless he’s a hypocrite, which is possible), but this comment is nevertheless revealing. "

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