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What on earth are you talking about? The states and the party, and the candidates agreed on this course of action, and are now clucking on about it like it was a surprise.
That either candidate is now suddenly deciding that what they agreed to is now no longer the case is disingenuous. Is it not? If not, I'd be curious to hear your argument as to why not. What you presented above what not an argument as to why not.
My point isn't that complicated. If you take into account the voters of FL and MI Hillary is currently leading the popular vote. . . . I'm sure you can come up with all type of reasons to exclude their votes. But if the goal of a primary is to actually count votes, Hillary's winning.
Actually, the DNC has the right to run their own elections to select their own candidate. You don't have the right to dictate how they choose a candidate.
If candidacy selection was simply about the popular vote, and nothing else, then how come there are delegates, super delegates, etc. You may disagree with the process, but the process, as it currently stands, of choosing a candidate is not simply about counting up the popular vote and declaring a winner. Surely you have enough sense of politics these past few years to have figured that out.
If not, then you need a primer on how US elections work.
Doesn't matter. The number of delegates WON determines who gets the nomination. It's like the electoral college. A candidate can lose the popular vote, but win in the electoral college. Tough luck Hillbilly. Besides Obama will surge ahead again in the popular vote by the time the primaries are over (w Fl and MI).
Doesn't matter. The number of delegates WON determines who gets the nomination. It's like the electoral college.
Well, since neither one can get to the magic number of 2025, someone will select the nominee, yes?
And the SD, as well as the pledged delegates are NOT required to vote the way the primary voters voted. If that were true then Kennedy and Kerry would be pledged for Hill&Bill, yes?
[quote=Alexus;3547489]Thanks for this post. My God, I am so sick of these Hillary supporters and their meaningless sense of desperation over MI and FL. Those 2 states DON'T MATTER.
How high and mighty you must feel you are!!!!! I'll bet if someone told you that your vote didn't count you would be upset. For that reason alone if I were from Florida or Michigan I would do everything to get my vote heard and I certainly wouldn't vote for Obama. It is a sad day when an American says that other American's votes don't matter.
Well, since neither one can get to the magic number of 2025, someone will select the nominee, yes?
And the SD, as well as the pledged delegates are NOT required to vote the way the primary voters voted. If that were true then Kennedy and Kerry would be pledged for Hill&Bill, yes?
This is ridiculous The delegates are picked by their State to in good conscious be the voice of their voters. So no matter what The Clintons try here its just words. If you listen to most of the SD's that have spoken already they also plan to go with the will of the people. It would be politic
suicide otherwise. Thats why I have said over and over again. Hill&Bill don't care about the party they care about the power. Sad
The voters in Florida and Michigan didn't head to the polls and then get told, much later, that their votes wouldn't count. They KNEW that going into the primaries. Now, do any of you think that an election, under those circumstances, in which many voters probably stayed home (because if I knew my vote wasn't going to count, I'd probably stay home) and there was no campaigning and many of the candidates weren't even ON THE BALLOT (keep in mind, these also occurred back when Clinton was the presumptive nominee and many voters still knew relatively little about Obama) should count? That we should take those ridiculous elections at face value? It's not a sound proposition.
This is ridiculous The delegates are picked by their State to in good conscious be the voice of their voters. So no matter what The Clintons try here its just words. If you listen to most of the SD's that have spoken already they also plan to go with the will of the people. It would be politic
suicide otherwise. Thats why I have said over and over again. Hill&Bill don't care about the party they care about the power. Sad
I suggest you get ahold of the DNC rules that explain delegate requirements.
Thanks for this post. My God, I am so sick of these Hillary supporters and their meaningless sense of desperation over MI and FL. Those 2 states DON'T MATTER. Who knows what would've happened in either state if Obama had campaigned in them or even been on the ballot in MI. He cut Hillary's 25% lead in PA to 9.4% in 2 weeks! Imagine what he could've accomplished in MI. MI is going Dem in the GE anyways.
FL, I'm skeptical of because they always seem to pick the wrong candidate and they don't know how to collect and tally votes correctly. Better they sit this one out. They'll have their chance to pick the wrong candidate YET AGAIN in the GE when they are sucked in by McCain.
Yes the Democratic party, proud to represent the 48 states of America! Nice to be told that states don't matter. Florida sure as he## mattered in 2000 for you.
Well, take it up with the DNC, they made the rules, and the states that broke them chose to do so. No state is being disenfranchised that didn't willfully and with full knowledge take actions to ensure that they were.
I still fail to understand how this is not understood. Unless of course this harkens to Sinclair's extraordinarily apt quote when it comes to elections "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it."
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Better they sit this one out. They'll have their chance to pick the wrong candidate YET AGAIN in the GE when they are sucked in by McCain.
