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Old 02-21-2020, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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US intel has informed the Sanders campaign that Russia is taking measures to help Bernie win the Democratic nomination. It's not because he is a Commie, though, but because, they like every other thinking being realizes that Trump vs. Sanders will be a cake walk for Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/polit...nce/index.html
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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This election is not going to be a cake walk for anyone, but I think the Ds have a very good chance with Bernie.

Bernie and Bloomberg currently poll best against Trump.

At least Bernie immediately came out and said the right thing, that Russia should stop interfering, not "nothing to see here, they're not interfering, fake news. etc".
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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This election is not going to be a cake walk for anyone, but I think the Ds have a very good chance with Bernie.

Bernie and Bloomberg currently poll best against Trump.

At least Bernie immediately came out and said the right thing, that Russia should stop interfering, not "nothing to see here, they're not interfering, fake news. etc".
Agreed. Russia may end up regretting this.
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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This election is not going to be a cake walk for anyone, but I think the Ds have a very good chance with Bernie.

Bernie and Bloomberg currently poll best against Trump.

At least Bernie immediately came out and said the right thing, that Russia should stop interfering, not "nothing to see here, they're not interfering, fake news. etc".
Why would you still believe any poll? Polls showed Hillary up by 7 over Trump and she lost. Look at the Iowa polls from the caucus just 2 weeks ago...NONE of them had Mayor Pete doing that well....not even close.

Do they give you comfort and hope, is that it?

How many times must you get burnt to stop believing polls?

Look at the odds in Las Vegas, Trump is up 40 points. Those people ar putting their money where their mouths are.

Have you seen the primary turnouts?

Size of the crowds Trump vs, everyone else?
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Polls showed Hillary up by 7 over Trump and she lost.
Incorrect information.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Incorrect information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...ntial_election

ALL 14 polls got it wrong...100% wrong. However, I do stand corrected, they ranked Hillary's lead from 1.9 to 5.3, but if you include the margin of error, I was partially correct. Thanks for the correction.

Nontheless, not 1 picked the winner out of 14, yet you still believe. Why?

Did you look at Iowa? NONE had Mayor Pete doing that well, not even close. They were all wrong again.

The polls blow it time after time after time, yet so many posters here cite them. I'm even guilty.

I do not know of 1 person who has ever been called by a nationwide political poll, do you?
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Since Russia is helping Bernie, then Bernie must immediately step down, or wind up being impeached.

We must adhere to Democrat precedence.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...ntial_election

ALL 14 polls got it wrong...100% wrong. However, I do stand corrected, they ranked Hillary's lead from 1.9 to 5.3, but if you include the margin of error, I was partially correct. Thanks for the correction.

Nontheless, not 1 picked the winner out of 14, yet you still believe. Why?

Did you look at Iowa? NONE had Mayor Pete doing that well, not even close. They were all wrong again.

The polls blow it time after time after time, yet so many posters here cite them. I'm even guilty.

I do not know of 1 person who has ever been called by a nationwide political poll, do you?
National polls represent the popular vote.

Hillary won the popular vote by 2.1%.

The national polls having it at Hillary +1.9 to +5.1 were correct within a stated typical margin of error which is usually 3-4 points.

The national polls predicted a narrow popular vote win for HRC and that was correct.

The polls that were not correct were state level polls which are harder to get an accurate sample on in many cases.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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US intel has informed the Sanders campaign that Russia is taking measures to help Bernie win the Democratic nomination. It's not because he is a Commie, though, but because, they like every other thinking being realizes that Trump vs. Sanders will be a cake walk for Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/polit...nce/index.html
I suspect their motives are a bit more complex. Though they undoubtedly want Trump re-elected and think Trump could beat Sanders, I suspect they also see Sanders as a no-lose situation. Somewhat like Trump, Sanders would be an isolationist, which would enable the Russians to run roughshod over whatever, whoever and wherever they wanted without penalty. Furthermore, like Trump they would see Sanders as a force weakening and dividing the US. Russia clearly has a vested interest in seeing a weaker US. As I said just above, Sanders in the democrats' Trump, so in all likelihood they figure a Trump-Sanders contest would be a no-lose situation for them.
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Old 02-21-2020, 04:38 PM
 
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US intel has informed the Sanders campaign that Russia is taking measures to help Bernie win the Democratic nomination. It's not because he is a Commie, though, but because, they like every other thinking being realizes that Trump vs. Sanders will be a cake walk for Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/polit...nce/index.html
I bet people who like you will say Sanders can win after he gets the nomination... And he will get the nomination...
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