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Old 05-05-2008, 02:45 PM
 
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Great article which proves Clinton not only spin things out of control, but she continues to spin and lie and this time it's down playing Indiana and making it look like Obama was always ahead and expected to win.

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But that's not the point here -- and frankly, I don't really care who has been ahead or behind in polls. What's notable -- and disturbing -- is that Hillary Clinton feels the need to lie in very obvious fashion, as if everyone is just too stupid to look up the easily verifiable facts. I'm going to capitalize this and boldface it for emphasis: SHE HAS BEEN EITHER AHEAD OR AT THE MARGIN OF ERROR IN EVERY SINGLE MAJOR POLL* DONE IN INDIANA, YET IS CLAIMING WITH A STRAIGHT FACE THAT "WE CAME FROM SO FAR BEHIND IN INDIANA."

David Sirota: Spinning? Fine. Spinning AND Lying? Not Cool. - Politics on The Huffington Post
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:35 PM
 
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This is no shock to me. That's what she does best. Lies
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:38 PM
 
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Hillary Lie? I've never seen a woman who lies so easily and when caught out she says she had "mispoken". Her third party stories are now so hard to believe too. To think she might become President!!!!
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:39 PM
 
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Great article which proves Clinton not only spin things out of control, but she continues to spin and lie and this time it's down playing Indiana and making it look like Obama was always ahead and expected to win.

Here is a quote from the article....
But that's not the point here -- and frankly, I don't really care who has been ahead or behind in polls. What's notable -- and disturbing -- is that Hillary Clinton feels the need to lie in very obvious fashion, as if everyone is just too stupid to look up the easily verifiable facts. I'm going to capitalize this and boldface it for emphasis: SHE HAS BEEN EITHER AHEAD OR AT THE MARGIN OF ERROR IN EVERY SINGLE MAJOR POLL* DONE IN INDIANA, YET IS CLAIMING WITH A STRAIGHT FACE THAT "WE CAME FROM SO FAR BEHIND IN INDIANA."

David Sirota: Spinning? Fine. Spinning AND Lying? Not Cool. - Politics on The Huffington Post
I hope he's not bothered by FACTS! Here are the polls that have been done in Indiana. Please notice all the ones that had Obama AHEAD!

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Indiana Democratic Primary
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:44 PM
 
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all presidents lie, pardonmy ignorance! but there may have beenone or 2 in our modern times that was for the people

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and then there are those who are for profits w/his colleagues

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and those who participate in illegal activity, and some of those are a and b
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:54 PM
 
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Great article which proves Clinton not only spin things out of control, but she continues to spin and lie and this time it's down playing Indiana and making it look like Obama was always ahead and expected to win.

Here is a quote from the article....
But that's not the point here -- and frankly, I don't really care who has been ahead or behind in polls. What's notable -- and disturbing -- is that Hillary Clinton feels the need to lie in very obvious fashion, as if everyone is just too stupid to look up the easily verifiable facts. I'm going to capitalize this and boldface it for emphasis: SHE HAS BEEN EITHER AHEAD OR AT THE MARGIN OF ERROR IN EVERY SINGLE MAJOR POLL* DONE IN INDIANA, YET IS CLAIMING WITH A STRAIGHT FACE THAT "WE CAME FROM SO FAR BEHIND IN INDIANA."

David Sirota: Spinning? Fine. Spinning AND Lying? Not Cool. - Politics on The Huffington Post
I find it true... Obama a few weeks ago was predicted to have a big win in Indiana. In some cases I heard he was suppose to win by 10+... well polls change
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:30 PM
 
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I hope he's not bothered by FACTS! Here are the polls that have been done in Indiana. Please notice all the ones that had Obama AHEAD!

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Indiana Democratic Primary

Thanks for posting that from realclearpolitics because it confirms my point. Clinton was ahead in 16 of those polls and Obama was ahead in 9 which therefore explains why the average gives Hillary a small lead. Here is an update to the article I originally posted which explains she was no "underdog" going into Indiana so lets get the FACTS straight.

UPDATE:
A commenter pointed out that in a tiny-sample poll way back in February, Obama was up 15 points. This poll was so insignificant as to not be listed even by RCP, and I think it's a huge stretch to say Clinton -- with all the rest of the polling data over the last few months -- isn't deliberately lying to create a storyline about being "an underdog." Nobody -- not a single honest observer of politics, nor anyone who knows even a shred of political data about Indiana -- thinks Hillary Clinton was "an underdog" in Indiana. It's blatantly ridiculous -- and those who rest that claim on one tiny early, wildly outlying poll are showing they are actually willing to accept pathological lying as truth. All of that said, in the interest of getting all of the data out there, I just wanted to flag it now that someone pointed it out to me.
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