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Old 03-18-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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A postal worker had claimed that superiors tampered with ballots.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...investigation/
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Old 03-18-2021, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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What would the PO know about tampered ballots? Why are they even looking at ballots beyond moving them along in the stream of mail.



We have all heard the stories of over worked postal workers throwing mail in the trash. Is it that much of a stretch to imagine a Left leaning letter carrier become angry at having to drop off mail everyday to a house that flies a Trump flag and their ballots go missing?



No evidence of fraud? Could it be that it was so wide spread that it has now become the norm?
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Old 03-18-2021, 08:57 AM
 
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Hi, we're the USPS. One of our employees came forward with allegations that some of our other employees were conspiring to backdate absentee ballot postmarks (so OTW invalid ballots would be considered valid and counted). These allegations were so compelling that a leading Senator is pushing for federal investigation of said allegations.

So, we investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.
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Old 03-18-2021, 09:58 AM
 
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U.S. Post Office finds no evidence of fraud in Pennsylvania

No surprise there. This is consistent with every investigation over 2020 election fraud in every context.

WANTING to believe there is fraud is not the same as knowing there is fraud. It takes investigation, it takes evidence. In every case where systemic fraud was alleged it has been found baseless.

This is true of every single case brought before the courts as well.

Yet, because these lies were perpetrated, hundreds of people were persuaded to go to Washington with bear spray and tazers, batons, poles and bombs ... and subsequently also persuaded to violently attack the US Capital building. The evidence for THAT is rock solid.
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Old 03-18-2021, 11:03 AM
 
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We've had to transition to paying bills completely online as many checks were not reaching their destination..and no, no one else deposited them. It had been going for for several years now. They just disappeared. Even delivery for items with tracking were arriving AFTER the promised delivery date.

Since the USPS can't seem to get the mail to where it needs to go, I have no faith in their conclusions regarding ballots.
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Old 03-18-2021, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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The issue in PA is that they bypassed their own state constitution to change the voting rules without approval from the state legislature. That in itself is illegal and resulted in tons of illegal ballots that should not have been counted.
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Old 03-18-2021, 11:44 AM
 
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U.S. Post Office finds no evidence of fraud in Pennsylvania

No surprise there. This is consistent with every investigation over 2020 election fraud in every context.

WANTING to believe there is fraud is not the same as knowing there is fraud. It takes investigation, it takes evidence. In every case where systemic fraud was alleged it has been found baseless.

This is true of every single case brought before the courts as well.

Yet, because these lies were perpetrated, hundreds of people were persuaded to go to Washington with bear spray and tazers, batons, poles and bombs ... and subsequently also persuaded to violently attack the US Capital building. The evidence for THAT is rock solid.
I agree that it takes investigation and vetting of evidence presented to the courts but here is the issue. Of 81 cases presented to to various courts, 72 allege voter fraud. Not a single one of these case presentations, zero, zip, nada, none has gotten to a point where the courts would even hear arguments or review potential evidence. The judicial preference in every case to date was to summarily dismiss them, no potential evidence was heard in a court of law.

Saying every case was found to be baseless in patently inaccurate. The fact is no official body has agreed to review or argue the merits of each claim.

Accurate as of Jan 2021, you can download this list of all case dispositions regarding 2020 election fraud cases here.
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Old 03-18-2021, 12:48 PM
 
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I agree that it takes investigation and vetting of evidence presented to the courts but here is the issue. Of 81 cases presented to to various courts, 72 allege voter fraud. Not a single one of these case presentations, zero, zip, nada, none has gotten to a point where the courts would even hear arguments or review potential evidence. The judicial preference in every case to date was to summarily dismiss them, no potential evidence was heard in a court of law.

Saying every case was found to be baseless in patently inaccurate. The fact is no official body has agreed to review or argue the merits of each claim.

Accurate as of Jan 2021, you can download this list of all case dispositions regarding 2020 election fraud cases here.
There are legal standards that must be met before “evidence” is admissible. The “evidence” presented in all of those cases did not meet those legal standards and thus was denied uniformly by judges, whether they be liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican.
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Old 03-18-2021, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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A postal worker had claimed that superiors tampered with ballots.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...investigation/
Charles Manson investigates himself and finds no evidence that he did anything wrong.

Yeah no. They need to be investigated by an unbiased outside entity. Color me completely unimpressed that the USPS -- with it's reputation on the line -- investigates itself and finds nothing. Why would they intentionally make themselves look bad?
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Old 03-18-2021, 04:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
U.S. Post Office finds no evidence of fraud in Pennsylvania

No surprise there. This is consistent with every investigation over 2020 election fraud in every context.

WANTING to believe there is fraud is not the same as knowing there is fraud. It takes investigation, it takes evidence. In every case where systemic fraud was alleged it has been found baseless.

This is true of every single case brought before the courts as well.

Yet, because these lies were perpetrated, hundreds of people were persuaded to go to Washington with bear spray and tazers, batons, poles and bombs ... and subsequently also persuaded to violently attack the US Capital building. The evidence for THAT is rock solid.









Not true.


https://jonathanturley.org/2021/03/1...omment-page-1/




Regarding the second bolded, the courts either refused to hear the case or dismissed them claiming they had no merit despite the fact they didn't even hear the case.
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