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Old 09-12-2008, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Originally Posted by BigJon3475 View Post
So the candidates that could win who does that leave us with...?



A plagiarizer....
A socialist.....
A fund. religious "nut job"
A man who more than once has caved to special interest....




I choose my evil already.


At least fund. religious have a set of ethics they go by and not popular vote.
Ahhhh................ liars who started a war are equivalent to having ethics.

Ethics = War.

War = Death.

Yes, love those "ethics" of the "religious" choice.

Thats exactly why Obama/Biden are the only choice.

No contest.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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Not one bit. Bring on the debates...
Biden is so going to get his a$$ kicked...
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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wrong again, bunko..! There is no such thing, it's a term, and can be various things, kind of like her answer indicated....
You said it yourself, it's a phrase, nothing more... sorry... demos lose again
Objective, third-party links and yet you still won't acknowledge it. Hopeless.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:20 PM
 
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Absolutely jest. It's becoming harder and harder to pick out policy matters in the personal attack ads or the sensationalism of the media about who has the worst family and friends record.
Having said that, I find the Great Debates forum a little less, what's the word, satisfying?
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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wrong again, bunko..! There is no such thing, it's a term, and can be various things, kind of like her answer indicated....
You said it yourself, it's a phrase, nothing more... sorry... demos lose again
You know less than Palin does, but of course, you are not running for V.P., either
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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You know less than Palin does, but of course, you are not running for V.P., either
It's crazy, isn't it. Look at how little evidence it took to get us into Iraq, and yet some will not believe that the Bush Doctrine, even with all the documentation, some of which is out of the mouth of Republican leadership, is real. Sad. Very sad.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:24 PM
 
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wrong again, bunko..! There is no such thing, it's a term, and can be various things, kind of like her answer indicated....
You said it yourself, it's a phrase, nothing more... sorry... demos lose again
Said with the credibility of a man that thinks Cheney is a great man.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:25 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Of course Bush had a "Doctrine", it's just that no one in the Republican party has figured it out yet.
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Old 09-12-2008, 10:49 PM
 
Location: exit 0
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Interesting read by the man that coined the phrase "The Bush Doctrine."

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The New York Times got it wrong. And Charlie Gibson got it wrong.

There is no single meaning of the Bush Doctrine. In fact, there have been four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of this administration -- and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in common usage today. It is utterly different.

He asked Palin, "Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?"

She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, "In what respect, Charlie?"

Sensing his "gotcha" moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her fish for the answer, Gibson grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube that the Bush doctrine "is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense.
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I know something about the subject because, as the Wikipedia entry on the Bush Doctrine notes, I was the first to use the term. In the cover essay of the June 4, 2001, issue of the Weekly Standard entitled, "The Bush Doctrine: ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism," I suggested that the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush Doctrine.

Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of the war on terror. In his address to the joint session of Congress nine days after 9/11, President Bush declared: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime." This "with us or against us" policy regarding terror -- first deployed against Pakistan when Secretary of State Colin Powell gave President Musharraf that seven-point ultimatum to end support for the Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan -- became the essence of the Bush Doctrine.

Until Iraq. A year later, when the Iraq war was looming, Bush offered his major justification by enunciating a doctrine of preemptive war. This is the one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine.
Charlie Gibson's Gaffe
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Old 09-12-2008, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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[quote=Ibginnie;5246674]Interesting read by the man that coined the phrase "The Bush Doctrine."

Yes, and she could have answered with any of those related iterations of the Bush Doctrine, but she obviously had never even heard of the term.

She didn't have a problem often answering questions tonight with answers that had little to do with the question. But the specificity of the term "Bush Doctrine" made her crap herself, and it's because she had no idea what it was, not in any of its evolving, though certainly intricately related, iterations.

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